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Snorkle vs cold air intake

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Waryguide, Nov 14, 2019.

  1. Nov 14, 2019 at 4:00 PM
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    So the snorkle I ordered should have all the parts I need then if all the stock parts are there?
     
  2. Nov 14, 2019 at 4:01 PM
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    If you have the stock air box and air box tubing then yes, all the parts for the snorkel you need come with the kit
     
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  4. Dec 27, 2019 at 7:52 PM
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    Well I put my snorkel on the day after I started this thread and I am verry happy with it. But just as I suspected there is a big drop in the pickup when murging on the freeway or just stepping on the gas. .Over all I think it is worth it. I'm still doing my own reasurch to see if the mpg was affected at all.
     
  5. Dec 27, 2019 at 8:36 PM
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    I'm trying to understand why (and apologies if I missed it, I am going back to read from the start) you would think that having air being sucked in from outside and also being forced inward from vehicle motion/speed, would cause a drop in acceleration when merging or just stepping on the gas... when I jump on the gas, my transmission downshifts and RPMs shoot up and it definitely moves as expected.

    Glad you're happy with it (for the most part). :thumbsup:
     
  6. Dec 27, 2019 at 8:52 PM
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    There should be no change in performance with the snorkel. If there is then there's something else going on, maybe the tubing isn't completely connected.
    Neither I or anyone else in the big ebay snorkel thread had any kind of performance loss
     
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    Having put a snorkel on, what you have now is 10x the "cold air intake" than what you had before. I have the K&N "cold air" intake (was on when I bought it), and to call it anything but a hot engine compartment air intake is laughable. Even with a heat shield, it still gets air from inside the engine bay.

    The snorkel takes in cooler air from outside, and farther away from the hot asphalt, so it should be even cooler than the stock intake.

    If you're noticing a performance loss with the snorkel, I'd run thru it and double check everything, something else sounds wrong, like the filter is clogged or something. Maybe the MAF is bad (bad connection, leak, etc...)
     
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    I think the performance loss can be attributed to the longer distance the air has to move through a tube also I think that the rubber connector between the snorkel and the factory inlet might be collapsing somewhat due to the suction from the engine.
     
  9. Dec 28, 2019 at 12:50 AM
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    I'm not hateing on it, I love everything about it. I am just reporting my findings. I understand the physics behind it and it can be attributed to the reasons above, but also going from a 2ish foot long unobstructed pipe to a 5ish foot tube is a change for the way the engine reacts.
     
  10. Dec 28, 2019 at 8:45 AM
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    wow. i don't agree
     
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    Its been proven on a dyno. Just do a little research. Any "acceleration" boost is actually a placebo effect since its louder than stock.
     
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    Ah, the old CAI debate. That should be good for ten pages of posts.
     
  13. Dec 28, 2019 at 8:58 AM
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    The Watofusi snorkel had an issue with collapsing under wide open throttle due to the poor material the tubing was made out of. I can say for sure the ebay one doesn't collapse, if that were happening you'd know right away. Engine would starve for air and stall or stumble hard.

    As for the air having to move further I don't think it's significant enough to make a noticeable difference, It's barely another 2ft of tubing on top of what's already there.
     
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  14. Dec 28, 2019 at 4:09 PM
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    That's not really a thing.

    The air can travel hundreds of miles as long as make makes it into the combustion chamber with enough velocity and volume.

    The collapse is definitely a thing. I've read that before, and @eon_blue mentioned, that some tend to collapse under the suction. Don't know what brand you have, but if you suspect that to be the case, definite look at getting a new one or reinforcing that one.
     

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