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Solid Axle Swap BS Thread

Discussion in 'Solid Axle Suspension' started by Supra TT, Feb 20, 2012.

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  1. Dec 8, 2012 at 1:12 PM
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    I agree about avoiding low backspaced wheels but I don't agree about them causing bump steer and ease of fitting larger tires. I had 2.5" backspaced wheels on my last truck (15x8's) on a Wagoneer 44 (Taco width) and never had problems with bump steer. Wheels with low backspacing will increase your scrub radius and wear out ball joints QUICK.

    It's clear to me you guys have been wheeling with IFS for WAY too long ;) When you are running 37's or 40's, there is absolutely no way for the tires to rub the frame, especially when you consider how tall a truck will need to be to fit 40's. They will get into the pinch weld and leaf springs/links far before the frame.

    That being said, I think 64-65" axle widths are perfect for these trucks on 37" tires. Wider than stock but not too wide.
     
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  2. Dec 8, 2012 at 1:17 PM
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    Agree. 64-65" is a happy medium
     
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  3. Dec 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM
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    Haha, good point

    On an IFS related note, I've been running 1" spacers up with 3.75" BS wheels. Just found out the other day that the ball joints for the spindles/UCAs are going to shit. Is it because of the spacers? Should I ditch the spacers and deal with the rubbing on the frame to keep this from reoccurring?
     
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  4. Dec 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM
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    My buddy ran 37s on an unshaven 14 bolt. He did drag it from time to time but its not as bad as made out to be. The last wheeling trip there was a guy on 42s and didn't drag it once. If you pick the right line you shouldn't have a problem.
     
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  5. Dec 8, 2012 at 3:37 PM
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    If you think about it, there is more leverage on your ball joints because the tire is further out. So yes, it will wear them out faster. I think that's why most go with a uni-ball setup on IFS with big tires. Gotta remember these trucks were built for 31", maybe 32" tires. Anything bigger and parts will wear out faster. SOLID AXLE!!
     
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  6. Dec 8, 2012 at 3:45 PM
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    Yup. And sure it's a rock anchor but it's an axle and it will get hit no matter what you do if you take the wrong lines. The good thing about a 14 bolt though, is rocks will break under it :cool:
     
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  7. Dec 8, 2012 at 3:53 PM
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    Thanks. Gonna remove the spacers then and get some Light Racing UCAs... less expensive and less maintenance than uni-balls. Should hold me over until the solid axle haha
     
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  8. Dec 8, 2012 at 4:08 PM
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    i have been passenger in a rig with 39" krawlers and a unshaven 14 bolt, it likes to hang up, another plus to shaving it is you get a smooth bottom the slide over stuff instead of catching on the big rib.
     
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  9. Dec 8, 2012 at 5:22 PM
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    Here is a pic compared to the fj
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    This is the same spot as the first pic i posted but Tacoma with and 3.75bs on 15/8 wheels.
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  10. Dec 8, 2012 at 5:37 PM
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    Lol! Maybe I have been wheeling on IFS too long... :eek::(:pout:
     
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  12. Dec 9, 2012 at 12:07 AM
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    It's not a bad thing. You aren't like me at all, which is good! My last truck, I modified it a little when it was IFS but didn't really wheel it that much. Then I swapped it and wheeled a lot more.

    My point was find the axles you want to run at the width you want and fine tune after it's built. If you think too much, you'll never do. Tire size, suspension geometry, wheel width/backspacing is different for EVERY truck. It's just one of those things you jump into head first and learn as you go along :p
     
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  13. Dec 9, 2012 at 12:09 AM
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    Yeah Matt's truck is the epitome of clean work. DD's are cheap! Finance a little Honda for 3k or even less. My Honda gets 40mpg and cost 2800 bucks...cost nothing after it got rear ended and totaled :rolleyes: I still drive the car though.
     
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  14. Dec 9, 2012 at 12:30 AM
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    That Tacoma is well built!
     
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  15. Dec 9, 2012 at 6:17 AM
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    whats up bitches
     
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    Yeah.... :eek:


    Got my 89 Celica for $950 cash. lol It's by no means a luxury ride, but it should get me where I need to go for the next 5 years....
     
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  17. Dec 9, 2012 at 7:17 AM
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    Just don't buy a Tacoma as a DD, you want to modify the hell out of it too along with your other truck.
     
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  18. Dec 9, 2012 at 8:42 AM
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    That's later on down the road. Gotta have a truck to tow this one, right?:D
     
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    So with this whole 'SAS' deal, (other than funds :rolleyes:) I think my biggest hurdle is proper link setup/geometry. I can't seem to find any specific guidelines or rules to follow.

    I've probably mentioned it before, but before I got this truck a couple years ago I had never even changed the oil or a tire on a car before. So I'm quite in the dark about a lot of this stuff, and links is something I don't want to f*&$ up on.

    Any good, definitive resources out there? Or should someone in my position take some of the guesswork out and get a link kit like the ones from these guys...

    http://www.4wheelunderground.com/index.html
     
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  20. Dec 9, 2012 at 9:59 AM
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    I know on pirate there is a good 3 and 4 link calculator. Mainly just look to see why others have done, also searching key terms like roll axis, anti squat and all the other fun stuff will give you an idea of what you need. You can play around on a 3/4 link calc until you get your numbers where they need to be.
     
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