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Solid Axle Swap BS Thread

Discussion in 'Solid Axle Suspension' started by Supra TT, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. Dec 3, 2017 at 12:54 PM
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    Timbo89

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    Removed everything from the axle to move it on the stand by myself. Used the winch to drive it into the garage ( bet my neighbors were thinking wtf is he up to again) and dropped it to start Disassembly. Stand is 39” off the ground so it’s been pretty easy on my back working on it.
     
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  2. Dec 3, 2017 at 12:56 PM
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    Snowy Is neither here nor there

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    At least you had a torch... I broke down and took my 80 axle to work so I could use a plasma and a forklift to move it around. The 80 housing is a lot lighter than the SD60 so I can’t imagine how much fun they are to mock up
     
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  3. Dec 3, 2017 at 4:59 PM
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    Well in their defense, most of the people who said get tons dropped their shit off at a shop, so they don't realize how much those axle suck to handle.
     
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  4. Dec 3, 2017 at 5:23 PM
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    Little debate and well I’m not up on coilovers and all the 3 link Fun. A good set of coilovers be better to run vs say the ori shocks? A set of Kings run around same as the ORI shocks.

    The whole dual rate calculations and figuring out what rate to get sounds like a pain. Ori from what I am reading you can adjust a lot of stuff by just changing the pressure in the top and bottom chambers. Plus no need for bumps
     
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  5. Dec 3, 2017 at 5:29 PM
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    Im glad you asked this, Ive been debating the same thing.
     
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  6. Dec 3, 2017 at 5:43 PM
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    SMKYTXN If it can't be overdone it's not worth doing Vendor

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    Give me another month or two and I'll let you know what I think of the ORI's. :D

    As for packaging the ORI's win hands down. Not needing to add bump stops or limit straps saved a lot of headache as far as fitting everything under the truck.
     
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  7. Dec 3, 2017 at 8:56 PM
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    there are a few drawbacks to them. they tend to lose lift in colder weather due to pressure changes. also if it leaks you are shit out of luck without anything to hold up the weight of vehicle like a spring would
     
  8. Dec 4, 2017 at 3:21 AM
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    MaxTrac spindles, 5100s at all corners. Front set @1.75 expo springs out back. Wheels are a 20x12 moto metal -44mm offset wrapped with 305/55/20 nitto Terras. Performance is just a drop in k&n and a Flowmaster thunder series exhaust and a few stickers ha.
    This is true. As for pressure changes they seem pretty easy to fill and remove nitrogen. The blown seal part seems to be the biggest downfall to them
     
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  9. Dec 4, 2017 at 10:44 AM
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    I have never said that. But this one of the reasons why many guys consider the older D60s to be the holy grail for builds (especially the late 70's kingping ones). Those have a lot of axle tube exposed on the driver side. But those are hard to find and usually crazy expensive.

    Oh...i know how much they suck to handle. Axles was the first thing I got, and dealing with them in a small house garage was the primary reason why I decided to have a shop work on my truck. Interesting assumptions on your part though. ;)

    Lot of mixed reviews about the ORIs. In theory they sound awesome but I have not met many people that have them.

    Coilovers are bit of work to find out the right balance. Every rig is different so you cannot really go with the rates that work with a similar rig. You can always run old school poly or rubber bumps until you figure things out for air bumps.
     
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  10. Dec 4, 2017 at 10:50 AM
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    King pins around my part are stupid expensive. A grand for one needing rebuilt I got my axle for 430 ish complete. I really like the simplicity of the ori shocks
     
  11. Dec 4, 2017 at 11:53 AM
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    They are crazy expensive in most parts of the country. I paid a grand for my late 80's kingpin and it was basically a pile of rust that needed a complete rebuild:eek: Not as much axle tube exposed like the late 70s one but certainly more than the SD axles. Still heavy as shit. With brakes mine was over 500 pounds!

    What you save on one end with a cheap SD axle you pay on the other with sweat, burns, cuts, bruises, hernias, wear/tear in tools and a lot of cursing lol. However, from a "this is the last axle you will ever build" perspective", I still think the SD axles are the way to go. Don't get me wrong, the older style D60 are still super strong. But in factory form SD axles have bigger and stronger ball joints, unit bearings, knuckles, inner Cs, brakes, axle tubes, etc. The 2005+ ones also have 35spline shafts all around. That alone is worth the shot.
     
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  12. Dec 5, 2017 at 9:21 PM
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    Wish I could’ve had the extra money to throw coilovers on the Jeep. After it’s rolling I’ll be saving for some coilovers. Guess I’ll be finding out how the fox air shocks are before too long
     
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  14. Dec 6, 2017 at 1:00 PM
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    Supra TT [OP] Solid Axle FTMFW!!

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    11k says right at the end of the ad.
     
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    I could have sworn it was 12k when I noticed the ad a few days ago.
     
  17. Dec 7, 2017 at 3:53 AM
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    Supra TT [OP] Solid Axle FTMFW!!

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    Lol just looked at the title basically didn't even scroll down.
     
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  18. Dec 7, 2017 at 10:19 AM
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    That's a cool truck.

    It's always cheaper to buy a rig already built for sure. But it is also riskier as one could potentially inherit somebody else's problems.
     
  19. Dec 7, 2017 at 1:40 PM
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    rctoy It's about to get real!!!

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    At that some times it's cheaper to fix another persons fuck ups than it is to make your own and then fix them.
     
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  20. Dec 7, 2017 at 5:26 PM
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    Need some help. What's the trick to getting the inner axle shaft back into the birfield? Can't get the new rcv shafts back into the birfs.
     
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