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Solid Axle Swap BS Thread

Discussion in 'Solid Axle Suspension' started by Supra TT, Feb 20, 2012.

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  1. Mar 6, 2012 at 9:19 PM
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    Was never really sure, but do trucks that are running 4-link front and rear use some sort of sway bar at all?
     
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  2. Mar 6, 2012 at 9:23 PM
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    Yeah I don't like sway bars either but I was curious to know if they're used. I would assume there would be a quick disconnect once you hit the trail, but for the street there must be one used?
     
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  3. Mar 6, 2012 at 9:27 PM
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    How is the body roll at hwy speeds in a SAS? Do you just get used to it or do you have to be a lot more careful while driving?
     
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  4. Mar 6, 2012 at 9:31 PM
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    Ah ok. I was in Denver heading to the Toyota Jamboree and some of the TTORA guys blew right by me in some SAS 4runners and pickups so it made me wonder haha
     
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  5. Mar 6, 2012 at 9:39 PM
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  6. Mar 6, 2012 at 9:43 PM
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    IDK. Pretty sure he runs those on the trail also.
     
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  7. Mar 6, 2012 at 9:47 PM
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    I like the idea of a quick disconnect sway bar. I don't think I'd feel like getting on a trailer every time I want to go to a trail, esp. if it's close by.
     
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  8. Mar 6, 2012 at 9:53 PM
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    I definitely would like to see/get a feel for how they handle sometime. SupraTT, you willing to help me out on that when I come visit?:D
     
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    I realize that, but i do not think he takes them off on the trail. Read what he says on the bottom of the post,

    Still flexes out and it drives great on the road. Im making corners 20 mph quicker than I was before.

    which makes me think he leaves them on for the trail.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIJ2tGl8r00&feature=player_embedded
     
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  10. Mar 6, 2012 at 10:05 PM
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    I see what your saying. Maybe its the nature of the sway bar to not hender him off road, but still cut down on body roll on the road. :confused: I believe its a currie sway bar, but not 100% sure. Currie says it doesnt need to be taken off for offroad use. I see what your saying, that does seem odd. If it still allows for flex then how exactly does it cut down on body roll?

    http://www.currieenterprises.com/cestore/antirock.aspx
     
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  11. Mar 6, 2012 at 10:14 PM
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    Fair enough, I might PM him to find out more about it.
     
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  12. Mar 6, 2012 at 10:18 PM
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    Will do.
     
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  13. Mar 7, 2012 at 10:31 AM
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    The sway bar setup that mossy uses is designed to not limit suspension flex due to the articulation of the mounting area. It still limits body roll by distrubuting weight over the 4 tires but isn't as effecient as a true sway bar.
     
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  14. Mar 13, 2012 at 1:22 PM
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    So all of those competition buggies out there that are using almost the exact same Anti-Rock swaybar setup are clueless?

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    Just saying. The right swaybar is definitely NOT useless.
     
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  15. Mar 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM
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    I've been doing more research on linked suspension. Looks like a pretty intimidating task. :anonymous:

    Considering I have little to no experience with this stuff, I figured I shouldn't scratch the leaf sprung option off the list right away, especially if I want to think about doing any of the work myself. I guess my reasoning for wanting to go linked was added weight for a lower COG and flex.

    Is there really that much of a difference between linked and leaf sprung to warrant the extra effort to make a linked setup? What are some downsides to considering leaf sprung? If the leaf packs were setup a little narrower, could you get significantly more flex, or are you risking too much in regards to strength and stability?
     
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  16. Mar 14, 2012 at 3:33 PM
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    The truck will still have a good lower COG.. and flex with leafs.

    Coils are better, always have been and always will be. Links can be replaced easily and can perform MUCH better than any leaf sprung rig in every aspect. Coils are expensive though, very expensive. When you run coils it is IDEAL to chop the frame off and design a new higher clearance frame so you can achieve more than the standard shitty 3-5" uptravel of the leafsprings

    The thing about setting up leaf springs is that you pretty much have to go with the width of the frame. Theres not much more you can do with that. The way to get more flex from leafs is to run longer leafs, but then again you will need to extend your frame for the front otherwise you will just RUB so badly on the firewall.
     
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    What is the cable going through the snatch block in the center of the axle for?
     
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    Usually a suckdown winch, used to allow droop and limit droop. when you're on a HUGE rock and your fat ass is drooped out, you can used the winch to suck it up and get over the obstacle. (Not 100% sure this is a suckdown winch, but pretty sure.)
     
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  19. Mar 14, 2012 at 3:45 PM
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    That was all I could think of, thats amazing
     
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  20. Mar 14, 2012 at 3:52 PM
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    You're not making the decision easy.:p

    I've leaned towards the "do it right the first time" method/mentality. But would it be better to start out with leaf sprung (being a beginner) and eventually convert to linked, or would it be too much of a PITA/too unnecessarily expensive to eventually convert to linked?

    Or have I simply not done enough research and linked is not as hard as it looks at first?
     
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