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Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by Bot_Chu, Mar 6, 2016.

  1. Mar 6, 2016 at 3:46 AM
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    The name is Chicken and i am a owner of a 2007 Access Cab v6 Prerunner 2wd that my father passed on to me after his passing 12-29-2014, and just recently have been interested in looking into a new suspension setup that will offer me the ability to mount a Demello Offroad Front Bumper. Now the details about the truck it currently has 230k Miles on it with most of the oem parts and is my daily driver in Southern Cali. I Do no plan to off-road heavily maybe very minor trailing that doesn't involve much rock crawling or anything of the nature. Now it seems right from the bat that the truck is gonna be for pure looks (Mall Crawler) . . . . for the most part yes. However, being a long time Tacoma World lurker i decided to build something that my father had wanted in his name.

    So i had done some research about the Demello Front Bumper, and Old Man EMU setup that runs the 886 springs an it seemed to peek my interest. However, it may not be a solid choice for various factors.

    Now this is where i need your guys help i would love any info about any suggested parts and items that will hopefully make this truck into what i want for my father.
    (Note i do use the search bar, just would like comments on this so i can keep track of things and make a checklist.)

    No strict budget atm but looking to keep it relatively under 4k

    Other then that thank you and its nice to meet you all.

    Current Exterior Mods:
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    • AVS In-Channel Ventvisors
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  2. Mar 6, 2016 at 3:49 AM
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  3. Mar 6, 2016 at 3:53 AM
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    Matic The "OFG" Baby!!!

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    I'm only here for the dancing chickens.
    Welcome to the forums.
     
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  4. Mar 6, 2016 at 3:55 AM
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    Thank you for the welcome brother! hopefully i can entertain you with a flying chicken (my truck) one day.
     
  5. Mar 6, 2016 at 4:12 AM
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    If 4k is in your budget... Go ICON, an AAL, and don't look back. You will be happy. They will provide the support you need when utilizing the truck while not beating you up on the daily drive. @colinb17 might be able to provide a tad more insight as well. He's been down this road
     
  6. Mar 6, 2016 at 4:19 AM
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    Now let's say I go down this route . . . Which stage kit do you suppose will be adequate? I'm guessing the stage 1 kit without the UCA would run around 2k from the get go? However since I practically live down the street of demello and icon I'm hoping to get somewhat of a glimpse and insight on the build.
     
  7. Mar 6, 2016 at 4:30 AM
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    I would say that stage 2 would likely be plenty for most people's applications. You get the adjustability of the UCAs and extended length shocks. The remote resis and stuff like that are for those who REALLY use their trucks IMO. That said if money was no object I would have them myself...
     
  8. Mar 6, 2016 at 4:35 AM
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    I will be honest if money wasn't an issue I would have a down payment ready for that 2017 special edition Tacoma. Now I would say the stage 2 kit is ideally what I'm looking for because as my father said do it right the first time, instead of hacking around. However it would seem that that leaves me with around 2k give or take depending on how much I can get the suspension setup for. Now it either comes down to upgrading the tires and wheels first to fit that new suspension or stick with 265 r16 (not worn yet) and get the front bumper. Using pretty much all of my savings for this build to get what my pops really wanted.
     
  9. Mar 6, 2016 at 4:33 PM
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    Have been researching a tad bit more on these suspension kits and it seems that possibly running a 5100 setup with the 885 or 887 springs and a rear leaf pack would be a reasonable setup since i am not offroading that often. Your take on this @memario1214 ?

    Edit on this
    Just found out about spindles for my 2wd tacoma . . . oh boy a whole other can of worms have been opened!
     
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  10. Mar 6, 2016 at 5:38 PM
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    Holy chit, I've done a lot already!!
    Do what your dad would have been really proud of, save that money and do upgrades in the future. Don't use all your savings for this. He'd be proud that you held on to the cash and waited. Just my $.02 ;)
     
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  11. Mar 6, 2016 at 5:45 PM
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    I totally agree with you. I think i should rephrased it to more of i have a spending budget for the Tacoma that i would like to spend on it. However, i still have money in the savings for a future build that he wanted . . . a "Long Travel Setup"!

    So the build now is more of a precursor to what he wants in a way.
     
  12. Mar 6, 2016 at 8:23 PM
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    2WD... You absolutely want to go the spindle route. It will ride SO MUCH BETTER than just a replacement extended length coilover. My stance here is that if you feel that you will really offroad the truck go with the leaf pack and don't look back. If you don't think you will do it that often go with an AAL to save your back. As for the fronts, the 885x is probably plenty stiff to support even an offroad Demello bumper. The really heavy components are great when you are beating on them, but if this is a daily driver with occasional forest service road kind of days I would personally stay away from the full pack and heavy springs.

    I guess I should have asked this a while ago... What are you hoping that these suspension components will do? Lift the truck? Make it more offroad worthy? Are you trying to clear larger tires? Just for looks?

    I am no financial advisor, but I fall into this category myself. Spend the money that you can accept to afford and accept to lose. Don't spend your last red cent on a want. If daddy wanted long travel, save up another 5k over your current 4k and just do it. As info, there is no smooth transition from mid-travel to long travel. It's kinda one or the other.
     
  13. Mar 6, 2016 at 8:36 PM
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    Alight let the games begin with the mod bug biting me almost instantly! So goal for this truck as of right now (Short Term) is to lift it above 2 inches (More now due to Spindles) so that i can clear 285 75 r16 and hopefully place a front bumper be it a tube style or like i mentioned before the Demello baja style ones (most likely tube now with the skid). At this point this is going to be a start from a stock Chicken Coupe (Tacoma) to a slightly more enhanced Chicken Coupe (Tacoma) and then eventually a long term thread of becoming a long travel build!
     
  14. Mar 6, 2016 at 8:39 PM
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    So basically a daily mall crawler to hopefully a competent project long travel Prerunner. @memario1214
     
  15. Mar 6, 2016 at 8:46 PM
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    In that case I would probably go with something similar to this out back and only have to do it once:
    http://dmzfab.com/product/05-tacoma-spring-under-conversion-kit-standard-bed/
    I would honestly like to do this on my truck, but I have kind petered out on spending more money on it now that I have a new toy to throw money at. My next truck will have this though. The rear end on these trucks is what beats a guy up.

    Realistically a new pack isn't necessary unless I would imagine yours is looking pretty flat now though since your truck is an '07? A kit like mentioned above is very involved though. That's a commitment. Just an option though.


    And then this up front:
    http://camburg.com/all-products/05-12-taco/toyota-tacoma-performance-spindle-kit/

    Shocks are entirely up to you. Your best contact on here would be @Downsouth Motorsports
     
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    Would this be a reasonable start for the upfront, besides the camburg which are awesome?
    (just using Amazon as to showcase the product)
    http://www.amazon.com/Maxtrac-Suspension-706840-Spindle-Toyota/dp/B00D3XX78I

    For the rear is there any other option besides the one you posted like the, all pro standard pack? Shocks i was thinking of going Billstein 5100 all around or have the extended rear ones since the front would be high right off the bat.
    http://downsouthmotorsports.com/i-1...e-height-adjustable-shocks-4wd-prerunner.html
     
  17. Mar 6, 2016 at 9:07 PM
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    Yeah you're on the right path for the beginnings of an upgraded setup. The All-Pro out back would work just fine and I know plenty of people who are happy with Billy 5100s all around. Maybe look into the 5150s?
     
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    Now the question is when buying the buying the billies for the front and rear i know im able to run the stock springs with the spindles which is fine for a start if im correct. Now when it comes to the rear adding the All-Pro in the back will increase the lift height while improving ride performance? Yet, when i get the billies be it the 5100 or 5150 will i need to full extended them at their max settings on the rear to allow it to reach the lower parts or am i not thinking it correctly :p?

    Also the 5150s just have long travel if am correct?
     
  19. Mar 6, 2016 at 9:18 PM
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    Here's where you're not hearing me so far. The 3" leaf pack will in fact lift the rear end of the truck. However, it will be entirely unforgiving while unloaded and ride like a 1 ton truck. So ride performance will decrease on-road, but you will be looking at a potential increase offroad due to available travel. If you get extended length shocks for the Tacoma you will be just fine. Rear shocks generally aren't adjustable like the front ones.
     
  20. Mar 6, 2016 at 9:24 PM
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    Im starting to get the big picture now after hearing you mention it again. Okay so now that i understand it riding like a tank on road but potential increase off road it seems to me that there will be trade offs no matter what Unless i went with the add a leaf which would improve on-road but decrease off-road potential correct? Either or at this point interesting. Since you run the old man emu setup do you like that tank like feel on road or is it just a Pain overall for dailying.
     

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