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Sound Deadener Recommendations

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by TXTaco13, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. Mar 23, 2018 at 7:44 PM
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    Anybody tried Parts Express' Sonic Barrier yet? It has a 63 mil total thickness with a ~4 mil aluminum constraining layer. It's a little more expensive than the 50 mil Noico but cheaper than the 80 mil Noico at $1.70/sq foot when you buy 25 sq ft.

    I bought a roll of their butyl rope a while back. I haven't had too much time to play with it, but did notice the viscosity seems to be a good bit higher than the SDS butyl on a warm day. Gonna try to play with that more later on. I haven't put any in my truck yet if that says anything.

    They make some combo products too.
     
  2. Mar 23, 2018 at 9:23 PM
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    I’d like to learn more about it.
     
  3. Mar 23, 2018 at 10:44 PM
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    I really like my Noico 80 mil sound deadener. Has made a major difference.
     
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  4. Mar 25, 2018 at 10:16 AM
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    Have any of you seen or used this stuff? https://soundskinsglobal.com

    I’m guessing it’s not as effective as cld and mlv but it seems like a cool concept. Combines the dampner and sound barrier together.
     
  5. Mar 26, 2018 at 1:55 PM
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    I saw that. I'd be curious the quality of materials due to the price, but there is also a lot of expensive crap out there.
     
  6. Mar 30, 2018 at 4:17 PM
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    I did something similar. I adde Noico 80 mil to the back panel on my DC. I was wondering if the Noico 80 is sufficient for heat and noise reduction, or should i add the Noico 150mil on top of the 80mil.

    what are your thoughts?
     
  7. Apr 4, 2018 at 8:39 AM
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    To be more effective, a closed cell foam layer is recommended, then a layer of mass loaded vinyl. Some manufacturers have them sandwiched together.
     
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    Noico (Or any other CLD) is not a sound proofer. It is a anti vibration dampener that has an adverse affect on reducing noise. If you are trying to sound proof, you need CCF and then MLV.
     
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    I ended up going with the Noico 80 mil, but haven't made any decisions on ccf or mlv.
     
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    The 80mm is what I recommend if your factory sound mats are in good shape. I used a double layer where there was no factory insulation, then added a single layer on top of the oem insulation because mine were in terrific shape.

    If you want heat insulation you need closed cell foam padding. Heat waves are most effectively stopped by pockets of air, not dense heavy material.
    Same concept applies when wearing layers of clothing in cold weather, and multi layered energy efficient windows.

    Noico has a self adhesive closed cell foam heat insulation product that I plan to double layer on the ceiling and inside my doors.
     
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  11. Apr 23, 2018 at 10:15 PM
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    Finally decided on ccf and mlv and went with Dynapad. Going to use it on the back wall on top of the Noico, and the leftover Dynapad will be used on the floor underneath the seats. Should have enough Noico leftover from the back wall to do all 4 doors as well.
     
  12. Aug 20, 2018 at 7:58 PM
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    What is the proper layer sequence for these materials on a vehicle? CLD, CCF, MLV? CLD being the first layer on the bare metal.
     
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    Exactly that way. CLD first, then CCF and then MLV
     
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    Thanks was confused for a minute as I have SDS system coming up for install!
     
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    Hey Guys,
    I used Parts Express Sonic Barrier in my taco, and Noico 80 mil in my Runner. The sonic is a little bit heavier and feels beeter, but it lacks the raised diamonds used to know if you rolled it on hard enough that are found on the Noico. Sonic wins because the 50' rolls are cheap.
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    Yoga mats from 5 Below are $5.00, and work great!
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    MLV went on top...and she is quiet! I bought it with Amazon prime so it shipped free. Paid less than $200 for sonic barrier, yoga mats, and MLV, all in 50' quantities. I had 25' of extra Noico from my Runner that was used. I was able to do access cab floors, walls, and doors. No mlv or yoga mats on doors, just used Sonic Barrier. The mlv would be super hard to use on the doors, so i didnt bother, and its not needed.
     
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    Got the Dynapad on the back wall installed on top of the Noico a few months back, and did Noico on the back doors as well. It’s worked really well at cutting road noise. Much of the noise from these trucks come from the back wall, c pillar area and back doors. Today I’ll be installing the remaining front door speakers and Noico to finish it off. I bought the 80 mil 36 sqft box of Noico, so I’m hoping I’ll have enough leftover to do the roof. If not, it’s still a great value considering I was able to do all doors fully, along with the back wall. I’ll update results afterwards.
     
  17. Aug 27, 2018 at 7:09 AM
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    How thick are the yoga mats? I have a molle panel that i just added with the Noico 80. Looking for some noise reaction and think the yoga mats might help.
     
  18. Aug 31, 2018 at 2:19 PM
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    Use some gat mat good quality
     
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    This is a ton of info. If I’m reading this correctly, CLD (like SDS or Noico) goes on first covering ~25%, then a CCF layer and MLV layer which should both cover 100%? Is there a bang/buck ratio here? Would treating only the doors and back be sufficient, excluding the floors and roof? I’d like to get a little better sound deadening, but don’t want to drop $400+. Thanks for the help
     
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