Space and Science BS Thread

Looks like it didn’t go completely overboard…
https://x.com/spaceoffshore/status/1739663510441758799?s=46

 

I stand corrected
https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1739679188670427188?s=46

 

https://x.com/nasahistory/status/1740024741895799044?s=46

Too bad Artemis II won’t enter lunar orbit. Gives the impression they’re not confident in the equipment…

 

Maybe. It could just represent a more risk averse command. This way they do their practice maneuvers in earth orbit then copy the Artemis 1 flight profile of a fly bye and free return. Some testing of HLS hardware.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HKgWRzyueo8&pp=ygUDSGxz

 

They seem pretty confident in the equipment based in part on us just getting a request to ship equipment to a Lockheed test facility for Artemis VII mission right before Christmas...it's gonna be a fun decade...

 

Can it sit 2 decades before it’s used

 

The pics ought to be spectacular…
https://x.com/nasajpl/status/1740071334556905473?s=46

 

Wow! That's only a couple more days for the first flyby! I can't wait to see the pics!

 

Old news…. Not my fault, been sick:
https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1741145027554824586?s=46

 

Hope you’re feeling better now.

 

Thanks @bagleboy

Got hit with a respiratory bug, not the VID, just starting to come out of it…

 

Happy New Years everyone!

2024 is going to be amazing:

• CLPS starts paying off
• Starship sure to get orbital
• Vulcan, maybe
• ….

 

Dream Chaser
SLS assembly and A2 launch
More Life module testing
Europa clipper flybys
Lisa
Hera
Multiple SH orbital launches

 

….and not a single word about Fireworks.

 

At this point we want those done with.

 

Starship seems like the best option for getting cargo to Mars but is it really better for people than something like Hermes(but with life module added) from the Martian? Seems to me if on orbit refueling is required then a ship that never lifts or lands might be better for moving people between planets.

 

My reasoning is Earth ascent/descent is radically different from Mars ascent/descent and both have radically different priorities than interplanetary which requires much more space and artificial gravity for months on end. For small initial crews it could work but i don’t see 100 people sharing a starship for months. As a bus to get them to orbit, yes. As a freighter to get massive supplies there, definitely.

 

Yes and no. The shop can deliver cargo. Do the math comparing Apollo cargo to the moon, and suddenly even 20 refueling ships makes sense. That said, in the end the moon and Mars will both require an entire infrastructure both orbitally and surface. Eventually we will have caravans heading to Mars consisting of several different vessels, but for now starship is the closest to happening and most likely to succeed first.

 

I just don’t see it as a mass transit people mover unless we develop hibernation. That many for that long is a disaster waiting to happen both in terms of logistics and sanity. On the order of ten to Mars or 50-100 just to the moon, maybe(imagine the line to the head). It would take much larger ships which favors transit only to avoid the complications and requirements of an earth launched rocket. We won’t be sending those large crews anywhere until that infrastructure is ready in any case. I’m just excited to imagine what might be coming along to do it.

 

I think one thing you are imagining incorrectly is that Elon wants to put 100 people in 1 Starship for 6 months. When it's more like 10 people in 10 Starships, plus all the cargo all those Starships can hold. That way, you add redundancy while reducing the disaster waiting to happen in terms of logistics and sanity.