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speed bleeders - who's using them?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by normbal, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. Apr 20, 2010 at 6:36 AM
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    Not wanting to relegate my son/daughter or wife to the job of pedal pusher, I'm thinking about buying a set of these before I put on SS lines and put in new pads.

    I can find TWO references here to them, NONE of Toyotanation regarding Tacomas.

    Company selling them (speedbleeder.com) doesn't know the sizes for sure for 2010 tacomas.

    Has ANYONE here bought/used them, why or why not?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Apr 20, 2010 at 6:54 AM
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    I used them about 6 years ago on a previous car I had. They worked pretty well and I did not have any problems with them. I just remember they had to be loosened half a turn or so. Be careful not to loosen them too much when bleeding.

    I have also seen similar pieces at advanced/autozone, can't really say anything about the quality though.
     
  3. Apr 20, 2010 at 9:13 AM
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    Thanks.

    I guess my real question is, if anyone IS using them, WHICH ONES? WHICH model? Size, fit, etc. Even Speedbleeders.com didn't know for sure about the 2010 models, they can't get the information from Toyota any more than I can (took me hours, over days to find out if the brake pads were the same for the 2010), best they can suggest is measuring the nuts across the flats and they'll guess at the size; send them back for exchange if they're not the right ones. Don't really have time for that.

    The other question is whether they fit when they DO fit. MEaning, I've read some reports about how the speed bleeders (from other mfrs) don't fit, they bottom out and don't close off.

    I'm trying to avoid several hours of dicking around here, figuring out what works or not as a test dummy isn't my idea of a good time.

    Thanks again.
     
  4. Apr 20, 2010 at 9:44 AM
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    I use them on my bike. They work great. Can't help with the Toyota fitting though. Next time you're at the dealer, buy a stock bleeder and check the thread. That should cost $.50 or so. Maybe $1. Or send it to the SpeedBleeder guys and tell them to match it...
     
  5. Apr 20, 2010 at 9:48 AM
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    I use the power bleeder from motive products. Works well, but better for flushing the entire system and not just bleeding them. Still a one person operation and can be used on other vehicles.
     
  6. Apr 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM
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    Spend $1 on 2' of 1/4" hose and be done with it. I like a to use a mason jar with a hole in the lid that holds the hose submerged in fluid. As long as you have a helper pushing the pedal, the whole job takes 10 minutes. If you're really lucky, you'll have a third person making sure the master cylinder stays topped off. Then you could do it in like 5 minutes.
     
  7. Apr 20, 2010 at 9:54 AM
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    For flushing a system I'll use a power bleeder, although when it comes to simply bleeding the system, I usually get a helper to manually push the pedal. You get a feel for the pedal that isn't there with the power bleeder, and helps to identify any air left in the lines.
     
  8. Apr 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM
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    Bleeding does flush it. It just takes more pumps. When clean fluid is coming through the line, it's flushed. Close it off and move on to the next closest corner.
     
  9. Apr 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM
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    See my post below...
     
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    I thought of a better way to use a speed bleeder...

    Just buy one speed bleeder, stick it thread first into the end of a 20" piece of clear tubing, making sure the connection is air tight. Put the other end of the tubing over your bleeder fitting on your caliper, open the fitting and pump your brakes. When new fluid appears with no bubbles, tighten your bleeder fitting. The speed bleeder in the end of the hose will prevent air from coming back up the hose into your brake lines. Remove the hose and move to the next caliper. Make sure you top off your brake fluid reservoir frequently.

    Some advantages of doing it this way...

    You get the speed bleeder convenience without the hassle of changing all your fittings.

    No need to get the exact size of threads for your car. ( This can be a challenge )

    Portable from car to car. ( Always nice )

    No need to buy multiple sets of bleeders for every car you own. ( Money saver )

    You keep the OE bleeder fitting on your rig. ( Less chance of crossed threads and/or leaking seats that don't match exactly )
     
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    I use Speed Bleeders in my vehicles. Haven't gotten around to buying a set for the Tacoma yet.

    They are high quality parts. They do not leak, they fit perfectly, and do exactly what they are supposed to do. It turned a hassle into a one-man operation that I could do in minutes.

    BTW, I do not think that using a hose and a single speed bleeder is going to help much. The pressure would be way too high in that hose--it will pop off of the fitting and/or off of the speed bleeder way before you get enough pressure to pass through the bleeder orifice.
     
  12. Apr 20, 2010 at 9:28 PM
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    Two things...

    1) Make sure you have a very tight fitting hose on your bleeder screw. I think 1/4 inch ID is the size I used.

    2) I tried this today and it doesn't take much pressure at all to get past the speed bleeder valve I bought at AZ.

    Also...I'm 80% done with a homemade cheap pressure bleeding tool that will fit our Tacomas perfectly. I will post a description and pics as soon as it's done.
     
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    Did anybody figure out the size yet?
     
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    I am not in a rush do do brakes I typically use the gravity method, or if I have a helper I have them pump.

    No problems in the past 15 years of working on vehicles.

    If you are in a rush a power assisted unit ie vacuum works nicely, I just dont like spending money unless needed.
     
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    Same thing I do except I use a coke bottle, put a cap on it and dump it at the Walmart oil dump. And I don't have any helpers, I just get out every 10 or 15 pumps and refill the master cylinder... if I'm lucky I get a helper to keep if full (or I do and she pumps).

    As long as the hose end is submerged air cannot draw back into the system.

    I have no idea what a third person could do beyond telling jokes. IMO, speed bleeders are a solution looking for a problem.
     
  16. Oct 12, 2011 at 4:20 AM
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    Mityvac works wonders for bleeding brakes. I used to bleed my track bike after every weekend.
     
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    I ended up ordering the Motive M/C pump. I notice that everything bleeds better with the truck running.
     
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