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spindles + coilovers??

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by dabighi, Nov 13, 2008.

  1. Nov 13, 2008 at 10:23 AM
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    dabighi

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    so im lookin at total chaos' site and they now make a pair of 3.5" lift spindles for the 2nd gen tacos. they say that these can be paired with aftermarket coilovers for up to 6" of lift. hows this possible dont really understand it. are there any negatives to doing it? like crappy alignment, destroying bushings or links at a faster rate?
     
  2. Nov 13, 2008 at 12:30 PM
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    It's definitely possible. I mean I have the Allied's combined with a Bilstein Coilover. It gave me about 6.5'' of lift up front so I've since then adjusted the coilovers down so there isn't as much of a rake. I'm not really sure how to explain how it works but there are more knowledgeable people on here that will chime in.
     
  3. Nov 13, 2008 at 2:01 PM
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    wat?
    from what i understand....the lift spindles lower the tires toward the ground, while keeping all the hookups and connections at stock. then the coilovers lift it like it would a stock vehicle. the lowering spindles on other vehicles work the same way by raising the tires and keeping everything else stock
     
  4. Nov 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM
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    Spidle lifts are very common on 4x4 and 2 wheelers they drop the location of the spindle , this elimates the need to lower control arms. You can combine the two, i would check angles after adjustments,
     
  5. Nov 13, 2008 at 2:12 PM
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    chris4x4

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    Cant run a spindle lift on the second gen. 4x4's. There is no place for the front shafts to pass thru. :)
     
  6. Nov 13, 2008 at 3:00 PM
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    As long as lowers would be dropped with crossmember it is possible for a spindle lift,
     
  7. Nov 13, 2008 at 3:15 PM
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    Methinks your geometry is off.
     
  8. Nov 13, 2008 at 3:21 PM
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    All 6 inch generation 2 lifts are drop spindles with new lower control arm cross members.
     
  9. Nov 13, 2008 at 3:21 PM
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    Lift spindles have no provision for the front drive shafts to pass thru. You can put the lowers whereever you want, the drive shaft cant pass thru a hole that does not exist. :confused:
    Methinks I agree with you.
     
  10. Nov 13, 2008 at 3:24 PM
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    OK, now thats different from what the OP was talking about. He was talking about the 3.5" lift spindles. Yes, 6" spindles have a provision for the front shafts.
     
  11. Nov 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM
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    I spent the time to do this so I'm posting it anyway. :p The red line is pretty much where the front axle would be.
    TacomaSpindle2.jpg

    So yeah, spindle lift + Gen 2 + 4x4 = outa luck.
     
  12. Nov 13, 2008 at 3:42 PM
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    Why are spindles so expensive when they look so simple? arent they like $700?
     
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    The truck in question is a prerunner not a 4 by like chris commented on the spindles, no 3.5 drops will not work on a 4x4 obviously.
     
  14. Nov 13, 2008 at 4:08 PM
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    to help solve any confusion on whether these will work on a 4x4 or not...

    direct from the TC website:

     
  15. Nov 13, 2008 at 4:20 PM
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    Probably closer to $1000. They're expensive for several reasons:
    1. Development time
    2. Cost of manufacturing & materials
    3. They're a critical component so a lot of the above goes into them

    Look at the prices of upper control arms and you'll wonder the same thing about the price, but all you have to do is break once and you'll find the expense is worth it.

    But even after upgrading it's important to remember that nothing is unbreakable. :eek:
    [​IMG]
    (not my truck, but he mangled his Allied spindles on the same trip I broke my UCA)
     
  16. Feb 27, 2009 at 1:19 PM
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    I bet that was expensive.
     
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    That was a costly day, but a hell of a lot of fun! :D
     
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