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Sprint Booster

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Jlemaster4, May 24, 2017.

  1. May 26, 2017 at 1:28 PM
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    That can be done, as the product has a function to easily switch between different throttle maps, and an off setting which returns normal throttle operation. I can usually get 4 passes done in the time my club spends there so 2 on and 2 off should give us a decent comparison.
     
  2. May 26, 2017 at 1:29 PM
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    Not forcing you to buy it. Just letting you and others know it makes the truck a lot more fun to drive.
     
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  3. May 26, 2017 at 1:46 PM
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    that it does and ain't no argument from here. my truck was kinda miserable to drive before. now i can't get enough. my last 2 cars were a modded R32 and a modded Subie, and i can't get enough of the fun of my Tacoma. that's saying a lot.
     
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  4. May 26, 2017 at 1:57 PM
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    Benzdriver81 Making it fool-proof will just make a better fool

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  5. May 26, 2017 at 2:13 PM
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    Going straight to wot in both applications, I don't think it would do anything to water mile times. You aren't gaining hp or tq.
     
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  6. May 26, 2017 at 2:17 PM
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    With all due respect it's just not that simple man. It's not about hp or tq in this case, it's about how quickly the vehicle gets from one gear at wot, to revving down in neutral, back in gear and back at wot. Put simply Sprint booster makes this transition happen quicker every time you shift, including launching. It makes the truck easier to launch, and that combined with the gear shifting means that overall it is slightly quicker. Its the difference between using all 270-some hp all the time, versus only using full power some of the time. We can debate all day whether or not it will make a difference but one trip to the drag strip will settle it.
     
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  7. May 26, 2017 at 2:40 PM
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    The truck will not accelerate faster. The throttle plate does not open faster.

    As far as helping you shift faster? Sure that may be if you need the help. Take manual trans out of the equation make it automatic.

    If you mash the gas to the floor whether you have sprint booster or not, the truck will run the same times accelerate the same speed, perform the same. 100% throttle is 100% throttle.
     
  8. May 26, 2017 at 2:43 PM
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    Because the throttle plate does not open faster. The sprint booster does not put a new motor on the plate.

    Let's say it takes 1 second for the plate to travel from closed to fully open. If you install the booster, the plate will still take 1 second to travel from closed to fully open.
     
  9. May 26, 2017 at 3:01 PM
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    And the difference that YOU are failing to realize is that from the factory, Toyota must have programmed some latency into the throttle pedal for some reason. If you watch the video, without the sprint booster installed the guy presses full throttle and the throttle body is open about a full second later. With sprint booster installed this second of latency is non existent, the throttle body essentially opens as the pedal is touched like it should have from the factory. That second of latency means that the 0-60 time is going to effectively be at least a second slower since getting to 60 typically involves at least a launch and a shift into second gear.

    Edit: Here is the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2312qlhdr8 start at 48 seconds for side by side comparisons.
     
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  10. May 26, 2017 at 3:25 PM
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    See this is where the company is smart. What you are watching is a paid advertisement of a demo box. It is not showing you the whole picture. The output lights are not showing the throttle plate opening, they are showing the output from the box. It is straight smoke and mirrors.

    See below. Take a guess where I got this quote from. Hint, it is straight from sprint booster website. SPRINT BOOSTER THEMSELVES ARE TELLING YOU THE CAR WILL NOT ACCELERATE FASTER

     
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  11. May 26, 2017 at 3:58 PM
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    Okay heres one with a throttle body just for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XVCYDNcwwY
    Ever heard of the concept of legal liability? They couldn't make a claim like that because they havent done all the testing and other things required to say it publicly, not because the device wouldn't potentially measure up to the claims. If they were to say that publicly, they would be required to give a refund to every person who bought one and then for whatever reason didnt see increased performance. That doesn't mean the potential isn't there, it means that the results are somewhat subjective in that a better driver will notice the increase in throttle response much more readily and put it to good use over someone who is not as experienced and not as ready to adapt their driving style to new features of their vehicle.
     
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  12. May 26, 2017 at 4:27 PM
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    Hahaha really dude? You are going to argue with the manufacturer? Are you that afraid to admit you are wrong? This topic has been covered on every car and truck forum in existence and the same result always comes around. The manufacturer themselves says that it does not make your vehicle faster. You yourself admitted it doesn't make it faster. Quit trying to be so proud man, it's OK. This smoke and mirrors has fooled many people, me included (in the beginning)
     
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    Just watch the video and draw your own conclusions about it. I'm not arguing with the manufacturer, just saying that they are forced to say that because not every person who uses the product will realize its full potential and the subjective nature of the product means that they can't make a broad claim like that, because people will come along and plug the product in but not allow themselves to get used to it before passing judgement on it. The concept of liability has been pushed far past what it once was and now the small company that makes the Sprint booster would be out of business if they made a claim like that because every person that bought one would say that the product didn't measure up in that way and return it or sue for fraudulent advertising practices. Obviously they have to make statements like that to protect themselves from legal liability, but that doesnt mean anything about the product. It's just like how laptops have those stupid stickers that say not to take a bath with your laptop. Obviously you shouldn't take a bath with it, a computer is the very essence of things that don't mix well with water and nobody thinks anything less of the product based on that. The statements that they make in that particular scenario (a disclaimer which that list obviously is) are obviously going to make them look bad, so they don't really have any bearing on the actual application of the product because they are only there for CYA purposes.
     
  14. May 26, 2017 at 4:45 PM
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    I feel that the manual has pretty responsive throttle to begin with, did it change anything for you?
     
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    I don't buy that man. Look how many intake manufacturers and exhaust makers claim 25+ hp from a simple intake change. It's bullshit.

    And the video is again a box made by sprint booster to show off their product. It's an advertisement.
     
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    Thats because companies like AFE and K&N do Dyno tests on those vehicles all day long!! All they have to do is produce one test that shows there product making a gain and then they can make that claim, but the people who make Sprint booster aren't doing Dyno tests all day long because they can't afford to. That was my whole point about this being a small company with limited resources.
     
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    It does state and show on the video in post #94 that it in fact does NOT add any power but it's supposed to open the throttle faster. I don't think anyone is saying you'll get more power, just a quicker response.
     
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    The people here are saying you will accelerate faster. It is just not true.

    Stevotivo- if they are worried about litigation it is because there is a good chance that what they are selling is smoke. This product can easily be proven for court if it is true. Clearly no proof will be enough for you if you refute what the manufacturer themselves claim.

    I agree this device makes the vehicle easier to drive, more enjoyable to drive. But it does not make it any faster
     
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    I not trying to get in the middle of you guys but if the throttle opens faster, wouldn't you get up to your desired speed faster? The vehicle won't be any faster or have more power but it makes sense if the throttle can open faster, it will get you up to speed faster, if only a fraction of a second. Stomping the pedal to the floor is opening the throttle slower than using the SB. Isn't it?
     
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    Sprint booster themselves said 0-60 time does not improve. If the plate opened faster and increased acceleration as you say this could not be true.

    All the booster does is tell the ecu you are pushing the pedal more than you actually are. You can have the same effect by pushing the pedal faster/harder whatever. It just takes less pedal input to get there.
     
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