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Sr5 vs trd

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Bowhunter32, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. Aug 4, 2018 at 3:15 PM
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    Bowhunter32

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    Just wondering if there is a significant difference in height between these two trims? I know the suspension is different..

    I have an sr5 on the way and saw this photo of a trd and really like the wheels and stance. Just wondering if I got these rims and tires if my truck would sit the same? Thanks

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    Suspension is same height between the models, sr5 comes with same size rims as TRD OR, but smaller tires. If you put those wheels and tires on your sr5, it’ll look the same.

    Additionally... all trims have their own unique suspension set up. Different rebound and dampening, but they all sit at the same height. If you boost up the wheel and tire size on the SR5s, the shocks and struts will need to be replaced as well. Not immediately, but it will need to happen. SR5 suspension doesn’t handle the extra weight well.
     
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    Thanks for the insight! I'm having a hard time picturing how wheel size/weight can have an effect on suspension, wouldn't the larger tire, if anything, make it easier on suspension? Please help me understand, thanks!
     
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    Not strictly true. SR, SR5, and Limited have the same pair of hitachi shocks. Off Road, Sport, and Pro have their own setups.
     
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    First paragraph yes, second no.
     
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    Sr, sr5, and limited share the same setup.

    TRD sport has its own.

    TRD OR has its own.

    TRD Pro has its own.

    I was simplifying. Sorry.


    Basically, if you throw the bigger wheels and tires on an SR, SR5, or limited... they will weigh more. The suspension isn’t designed to handle the extra weight. It will make the suspension softer for a little while, but eventually it will wear it all out, and you will start to feel the wheels bouncing. I had an SR5, and this happened to mine. You don’t want to trash the tires with cupping (wear in tires caused by bouncing) and have to replace them long before you should have to. It took about 6 months for me, so just know you will need to upgrade the suspension within about that time.
     
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    thats bullshit bought new in 12 sr5 put pro comps on with 265/70/17 have 111000 on it never had suspension problems still all stock
     
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    2012 Tacoma?
     
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    I am still having a hard time grasping the concept. Maybe it was a coincident for you.
     
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    Still not true. Unless your wheels are out of balance then the suspension won’t bounce. You had some other issue that’s caused that, not the actual size/weight of the new tires/rims.
     
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    Hope you're right because I was planning on going same size as OR tires after I wear out my current stock tires
     
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    tires and wheel weight mean nothing to suspension
     
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    Mine is a SR5, TRD Sport!
     
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    means nothing
     
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    It means if the OP wants a truck like that one he should buy that one!
     
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    Rule one of suspension is unsprung weight matters. It matters a lot. Since you dont know what that means do some google then come back.
     
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    Don't understand. Weight of the axles is being support by the wheels. Not the suspension.
     
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    It gets complicated so google it, but your ignoring the forces created by that unsprung weight while moving, that has a huge effect on shocks. It’s why you increase rebound dampening with heavier wheels/tires.
     
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    ^^this.

    It happened on 2 of my 4runners, my frontier, and my Tacoma. Also my dads tacoma. Also, upgraded a company vehicle’s wheels tires for remote rescues, an F-450 with utility box, and it didn’t happen, suspension was designed for a lot more weight.

    I pay very close attention to my vehicle while driving. It’s subtle, but it does happen like I describe it, and I t will get worse. If given the option, I chose to upgrade my shocks, few hundred bucks on a budget and improves the ride, over replacing tires because they are cupping, which is more than double the suspension price. It’s up to you, but keep in mind I’m not full of crap.
     
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    Wheels are connected to the axles. Wheels support their weight, yes.

    Truck is connected to the axles by the suspension. It suspends the truck from the axles as a base. Now as far as what supports the weight of the truck, that’s the coils up front and leads in the rear. They do all the work for absorbing the bumps and pushing the wheel back down after the bump, the shocks and struts slow it down to keep it controlled. Having the wheels and tires bounce around without shocks would kill the tires and suspension components. With that in mind, heavier wheels and tires exert much more force as they move up and down and even rotate, and can overpower the shocks ability to do its job. Sorry to be that guy, but the black hitachi shocks are not designed to handle it, and they won’t.

    Go ahead and ignore me if you’d prefer; but keep this thread in mind if you start blowing through sets of nice tires every 20,000 miles instead of 45 or 50k. $400 on some basic 5100 shocks will improve your ride quality and save your tires. You heard it here first.
     

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