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Starting Welding

Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by ClemsonTacoma, Jun 7, 2010.

  1. Jun 7, 2010 at 9:17 AM
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    ClemsonTacoma

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  2. Jun 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM
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    Honestly, I would look for a better brand since I cant even tell what that one is. Will you be welding indoors? If so, stay away from flux core and get a bottle of gas, the welds will be much cleaner.

    Look for a miller 140 (the one we have), a hobart, or a lincoln. You will be much happier.
     
  3. Jun 7, 2010 at 9:29 AM
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    Paul's TRD

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    Stay away from it. those little cheap welders are more a pain in the ass. If you want to start welding go ahead and to the home depot and get yourself the lincoln welder that has the option to weld with gas CO2 mix. this is the best way to go. It's what i have and make motorcycle frames and all kinds of stuff. My first trade was welding and have used all kind of machines, so I know these welders. really any comparable welder around $500.00 bucks is good. Stick to these brands, Lincoln, Miller & Hobart. they all make nice small gas-able welders.
     
  4. Jun 7, 2010 at 9:32 AM
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    Yeah I agree with getting a better one. That one said it had 10% duty cycle, that means you weld one minute and wait nine to let the welder cool down. I would get a welder with a higher duty cycle.
     
  5. Jun 7, 2010 at 9:35 AM
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    thanks for the suggestion, i was just thinking about getting this cheep one and messing around since most of my money will be going towards starting a new business
     
  6. Jun 7, 2010 at 9:37 AM
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    I started recently too and picked up a Hobart Handler 140. Great little box and so far it's done a great job on everything I've welded.

    My welding has been all outdoors so I'm using flux core. A bit sloppy but it works for now. The 140 came with everything needed (except the bottle, of course) for gas shield welding, so that'll be a convenient switch when I have room to do stuff indoors.

    Once you get started you're gonna have a lot of fun welding. Incredibly useful skill to have. :)
     
  7. Jun 7, 2010 at 9:45 AM
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    It comes with a welding mask? :eek:
    Looks like a pair of cutting goggles too me :confused:

    WTF are those guys selling it thinking of other then a nice future case of skin cancer.

    Protect the skin from welding rays and always wear a hood.
     
  8. Jun 7, 2010 at 9:48 AM
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    seriously. You will get a nice sun burn in no time with those things. To the OP, make sure you invest in a nice welding hood with auto dimming. They are soooo nice!
     
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    I went through the same thing about 10 years ago and I'm glad I waited. I bought a Lincoln welder and played around with flux core. It's messy hard to do. I bought the regulator and a bottle and it's so much easier and cleaner. If you ever plan on welding sheet metal or anything that will show you will want the gas or you will be grinding little boogers off of everything. Also, that welder doesn't handle real thin wire so welding any sheet metal with it will be pointless.

    That looks like one of those cheap Harbor Frieght welders to me. Chicago Electric or something like that. I'd hate to try and find parts for it in the future.
     
  10. Jun 7, 2010 at 10:13 AM
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    yeah I can get a good deal on an auto dimming mask from my friends dad, I definitely wouldn't want to cheep out on safety
     
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    Some of the cheaper welders are actually a great starting point if you don't have the funds for a name brand. I started off welding with a Lincoln 225 stick back in the day. My first welder that I bought was a Clarke 180. It’s a 220v welder that held up great for my smaller projects. Once I started making bumpers I quickly realized I needed a new welder. One thing to look at is the duty cycle of the welder. If you’re just doing small projects and welding a little at a time then a lower duty cycle will work. Also take into consideration how thick the metal will be. An 115v unit is good for up to 1/4" max. Welding with flux core is also a good starting point. Once you get good with it your welds will look professional when you get a bottle.
    I would check out pirate4x4.com and the tool vender section. You can get a great deal and warranty for a cheaper welder like Longevity. I have one of their plasma cutters and I'm very pleased so far.
     
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