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Steering shake Issues

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Mmkaybrian, Apr 19, 2025.

  1. Apr 19, 2025 at 8:20 AM
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    Mmkaybrian

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    Hey y’all, long time lurker. I’ve been chasing down a steering issue on my 2000 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD, 5-speed manual, rear locker, Extra Cab—and I’m completely stumped. Hoping someone here has dealt with something similar or can help me figure this out.

    Symptoms:

    Steering wheel shakes and moves side to side slightly after hitting a bump

    The truck sort of “dives” or follows every pothole


    No clunks or popping noises

    I tried my best to take a good video: https://youtube.com/shorts/NpphszRVLtQ?si=tyncnhOGBHsg4pJD

    What I’ve Replaced (All OEM):

    Steering rack (new)

    Outer tie rods

    Lower ball joints

    Sway bar end links + sway bar bushings

    Coilovers (King 2.5s, currently with 0 preload)

    Alignment done after suspension work

    Wheel bearings checked (no play)


    Tires & Alignment:

    I was told by a shop that it was bad tires causing the issue, so I bought a brand new set of all-terrains

    Tires have been balanced twice—at two different shops

    I’ve also had the truck aligned at two different shops

    Still no improvement in the symptoms


    Other Notes:

    Shake is felt in the steering wheel, not the seat

    No brake shake, no clunking, no popping

    Truck wanders on freeway

    Mechanic recently suggested lower control arm bushings might be the issue

    I haven’t replaced upper control arms, UBJ or bushings yet

    Steering shaft hasn’t been checked yet, but I’m starting to suspect it may be the last remaining issue


    If anyone has had similar symptoms from LCA bushings, the steering shaft (tack weld mod), or something else I'm not thinking of, I’d love to hear your experience. Also, if anyone knows of a really solid front-end or suspension shop in North County San Diego (or even farther out if it’s worth the drive), please drop a recommendation. I’ve spent way too much time and money trying to figure this out.

    Appreciate any help!
     
  2. Apr 19, 2025 at 8:31 AM
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    If those are the factory LCA bushings, they might be shot enough to permit significant wobble, depending on how badly the rubber has degraded. (25 year old rubber, not exactly... shocking). I doubt it's the upper control arms. There's a good chance the intermediate shaft is contributing, at the age of your truck. I know mine's got a little bit of back & forth in it that I need to get around to resolving. Maybe. Eventually.

    If you can get the front end in the air, you can lever on the LCA bushings with a pry bar - they should move at least a little, but if they move and then don't come back they're definitely gone. Another symptom of them being on their way out/gone is if they move with minimal force. I would also say if those are the factory LCA bushings, it would be unsurprising.
     
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  3. Apr 19, 2025 at 8:52 AM
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    Thanks man, I really appreciate the insight. I’m almost certain they’re still the factory bushings, but I just wanted to cover my bases and get some outside opinions before I start firing the parts cannon again. I’ll definitely check them out with a pry bar when I get home and see how they move.
     
  4. Apr 21, 2025 at 7:18 AM
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    What size and weight rating tires are you running? Load range E doesn't play well with little tacomas in general, especially with any aged softening bits up front. *not the balance, just the substantial weight that E carries over a C rating.

    I would also suspect control arm bushings in this case. Did the alignment hit spec fine?
     
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  5. Apr 21, 2025 at 7:36 AM
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    02hilux

    02hilux What do you mean there’s no road, I’m here

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    Was gonna suggest this as well. I am also hunting down steering wheel play. I found that using this method above I have play in the steering wheel and will be pulling it out to do the tack weld.
     
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  7. Apr 21, 2025 at 8:47 AM
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    I’m running 265/75R16 Load Range E tires. I know E isn’t ideal for a Tacoma and definitely adds a good chunk of unsprung weight, so I’ve been wondering if that’s part of the issue too. The tires are only a couple years old, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that extra stress is starting to show in the front end. I had both shops say it hit spec, but I forgot to ask for the sheets to check the numbers myself. :facepalm:
     
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  8. Apr 21, 2025 at 8:50 AM
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    Interesting, did that actually create a shake over bumps like I’m getting? I was under the impression that the tackweld mod mostly helped with wandering or play/loose steering feel at higher speeds, not a bump-induced shimmy. Will definitely look into it more closely, thanks.
     
  9. Apr 21, 2025 at 9:01 AM
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    Did you notice if your play was more noticeable over bumps or just general slop at all speeds? I’ve been debating the tack weld too, but just want to make sure it’s worth the effort of pulling the column. I wasn’t totally sure if the shake/shimmy I’m getting could actually be caused by the column, so I’d definitely like to hear more about the symptoms you have. Not sure if the video I took shows it clearly enough, but the steering wheel has a noticeable wobble over rougher patches.
     
  10. Apr 21, 2025 at 9:02 AM
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    On the 98, both freestanding and immediately after a bump.
     
  11. Apr 21, 2025 at 9:06 AM
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    If you haven't done the LCA and UCA bushings, 100% start there.
     
  12. Apr 21, 2025 at 3:25 PM
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    One of the unique symptoms that I have is driving really slowly off-road on bumpy terrain and I can feel the steering wheel very clearly jerk back and forth and it feels pretty disconnected from the actual truck itself.

    I have also been experiencing general steering wheel vibrations at highway speeds. I swapped from my off road tires to my highway tires and that definitely helped reduce the steering wheel vibration wobble. I checked my tie rods and they seem fine, there might be a little inner tie rod or steering rack play. See this thread I started a couple weeks ago.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/loose-steering-and-tie-rod-play.856818/

    When I put vice grip on the steering shaft and held that and turned the steering wheel there was definitely some play there. But I’m still a bit from doing the work as I’m too busy to get it done right now. I’ll message back after I pulled the column and weld it up.
     
  13. Apr 21, 2025 at 3:46 PM
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    Got it, that’s super helpful. Mine definitely has a bit of a shimmy right after hitting bumps and I will check the freestanding play, so sounds like it's a similar situation to what you had on the ‘98. I’ll dig into that thread and probably give the tack weld a shot. Appreciate the insight — hoping it makes a difference.
     
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    Yeah that’s been on my mind too. Haven’t done the LCA or UCA bushings yet, so I’m thinking that might be the next move. Pretty sure they’re original and probably tired at this point. Appreciate the heads up — sounds like it’s time to finally tackle those even if it doesn't fix my issue.
     
  15. Apr 21, 2025 at 3:50 PM
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    That actually sounds super similar to what I’m dealing with — especially that disconnected feeling at low speeds on bumpy terrain. The highway vibration mellowed out a bit when I swapped tires too, so it seems like there’s a combo of things going on. I haven’t tested it with vice grips yet, but I’m planning to soon. Been pretty busy myself lately, but hopefully I can get to it soon. Definitely curious to see if the tack weld helps once you get around to it — keep me posted.
     
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    Update for you guys:

    Had about an hour free so I decided to go ahead and pull the steering column out(since its free to do). Super easy—took maybe 10–15 minutes max. I was fully ready to tack weld it, but then I figured I should check for play first.
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    I took a quick video (attached below)—not sure how clear it is—but it looks like there’s virtually no movement in the column. Like, seriously, no noticeable play at all. Definitely nothing like what I’ve seen in other videos where the shaft shifts or clunks. Now I’m kind of stuck—should I still tack weld it just to see if it helps, or leave it alone since it seems tight? Would love to hear what y’all think before I throw a weld on it for no reason.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/e-SVkW4G-qU
     

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