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Still think TITNC3: Return of the Iceberg was peak

Discussion in 'Stocks & Investments' started by kairo, Oct 6, 2020.

  1. Dec 15, 2021 at 7:25 PM
    Boyk1182

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    Nope, I never ask for receipts at that gas station. If it was more than $3 I’d try to get it.
     
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  3. Dec 15, 2021 at 7:40 PM
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    Yea that confirms what I said. Funds have to be settled. Let’s say I deposited $1,000. Once it settled, I have $1,000 for the day. I but some calls for $200. I sell those calls an hour later for $400. I now have a portfolio balance of $1,200, but $800 of settled funds to continue to use that same day. The next day, the sale of that first trade will settle and I will have the $400 to use again.
     
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  4. Dec 15, 2021 at 7:42 PM
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    That’s if you’re talking shares. Options are T+1 so they settle next day.
     
  5. Dec 15, 2021 at 7:43 PM
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    Only if it’s margin.
     
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    If I sell shares, I can immediately spend that money on something else. I have no margin, I don’t know if that affects anything.
     
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    Right. But if you sell that something else before the original funds have settled it's called a Good Faith violation.
     
  8. Dec 15, 2021 at 7:59 PM
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    I know, we won’t talk about how I found that out.
     
  9. Dec 15, 2021 at 8:01 PM
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    Probably the same way I found out I was a PDT. Woke up to a margin call on my non-margin account. lol
     
  10. Dec 15, 2021 at 8:02 PM
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    I woke up to some emails and alerts on my account.
     
  11. Dec 15, 2021 at 8:13 PM
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    That’s why options are so much fun. They settle same day next day the money is available
     
  12. Dec 15, 2021 at 8:28 PM
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    Who is your account with? Pretty sure my TD Ameritrade account “Cash available for trading” doesn’t include my sold shares funds until they’ve settled a couple days later.
     
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  14. Dec 15, 2021 at 8:32 PM
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    Read above, you can buy with that money, but you can’t sell what you bought with it. It’s confusing until you get a violation then you’re forced to learn it.
     
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    I’m not sure which post above you’re referring to. I did see your post that said “If I sell shares, I can immediately spend that money on something else. I have no margin, I don’t know if that affects anything.”
    Well I can’t do that in my TD Ameritrade cash account, I have to wait until what I sell settles before it gets included on “Cash available for trading” before I can use that money to buy something else. Once it’s cleared I can buy with the funds.

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    You may be making a point about some other post, I’m just not clear on what you’re saying.
     
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    I don’t know, I’d look into other brokerages because that’s not how it is at other places.
     
  17. Dec 15, 2021 at 9:01 PM
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    But Im not the one who got a violation, I like where I am :D
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    See links in my post #56410 regarding the risk of violations using unsettled funds in a cash account.
     
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    I don’t agree with this assessment. It’s difficult to find documentation but I have never had a margin account. I got day trader warnings before I had 25,000 now that I’m over 25,000 I do not get a trader warnings. You Must have 25k in value to execute more four in and out trades in five days.


    https://investmentu.com/how-to-remove-pattern-day-trader-status/
     
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    Weird. But not according to everyone and everything I’ve seen.
     
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