Still think TITNC3: Return of the Iceberg was peak

jandrews · Feb 23, 2022

As of this second my gold allocation is about 10% out of spec high side. Thats my trigger percentage. Moved it over to VTI/VNQ. These are the exciting trades that make up most of my life.

BudFriendguy · Feb 23, 2022

KingOfTheNorth said: ↑

Yeah I can see that. Luckily never had any so I dont know the other side of what I am missing. And as of Friday the 4th the deal will be sealed.
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My guess is parents put a very high value on those moments where kids grow up in front of you and become actual people, and that is better to them than any toys or other superficial stuff.

Personally, kids annoy the shit out of me and I am very greedy and don't want to share my money with some little non-person for 18+ years.

To each their own.

98tacoma27 · Feb 23, 2022

BudFriendguy said: ↑

My guess is parents put a very high value on those moments where kids grow up in front of you and become actual people, and that is better to them than any toys or other superficial stuff.

Personally, kids annoy the shit out of me and I am very greedy and don't want to share my money with some little non-person for 18+ years.

To each their own.
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One of the joys I have with my two boys is I buy 2 matchbox cars everytime I go to the grocery store. When I get home I give them each one. The ooohs and aaahs are priceless. One is 2 and the other will be 1 next month. It's the little things.

To each their own

jandrews · Feb 23, 2022

BudFriendguy said: ↑

Personally, kids annoy the shit out of me and I am very greedy and don't want to share my money with some little non-person for 18+ years.
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You ain't gotta justify it. People will try to make you feel like you do, but you don't. You don't owe anyone a kid.

BudFriendguy · Feb 23, 2022

jandrews said: ↑

You ain't gotta justify it. People will try to make you feel like you do, but you don't. You don't owe anyone a kid.
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I'm just honest (with others and myself) about it.

I'm very greedy when it comes to my:

Money (I resent having to work for it!)

Free time (it's MINE!)

To add TMI to this investing thread: I had the ole snip snap snip a couple years ago and absolutely love no longer having to worry about accidental spillage. So happy about it I even got the receipt for the procedure framed and hung on my office wall.

Iwilltaco · Feb 23, 2022

BudFriendguy said: ↑

I'm just honest (with others and myself) about it.

I'm very greedy when it comes to my:

Money (I resent having to work for it!)

Free time (it's MINE!)

To add TMI to this investing thread: I had the ole snip snap snip a couple years ago and absolutely love no longer having to worry about accidental spillage. So happy about it I even got the receipt for the procedure framed and hung on my office wall.
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Doctors signature?

jandrews · Feb 23, 2022

BudFriendguy said: ↑

very greedy
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Nah. Your time and money are your property to use as you see fit. Nothing greedy about it.

scottstrong89 · Feb 23, 2022

Every time!

TreeFortRichard · Feb 23, 2022

So I saw that $COKE was way down and $KO just fine...which led me to..hmmm...what IS that all about...

Great reading for those interested...
https://www.vintagevalueinvesting.com/ko-vs-coke-whats-the-difference/

vintagevalueinvesting.com
KO vs. COKE: What’s the Difference? – Vintage Value Investing
6-8 minutes

How to Confuse an Investor
Few companies that exist today or have existed in the past have held such a strong competitive advantage in its respective field as The Coca-Cola Company. Created in 1886 by a pharmacist, Coca-Cola has, over the past 134 years, buried itself into the mind of billions of consumers around the world as being the perfect beverage to bring an element of happiness into their lives.

It’s little surprise then that over 1.9 billion servings of Coca-Cola products are consumed globally every single day.

Such a strong competitive advantage would naturally attract any serious investor, but when looking for more information about the company it’ll be easy to become confused, due to a unique peculiarity of The Coca-Cola Company’s business model.

Just look at IBIS World’s most recent report on the Soda Production industry and you will see that there is almost no mention of The Coca-Cola Company, but still entire sections given to Pepsi and Keurig Dr. Pepper. The reason for this is that The Coca-Cola Company doesn’t actually produce very much soda.

The actual production of Coca-Cola’s beloved brands is done by independent partners and distributors; commonly known as “bottlers”. To make things more confusing for anyone hoping to invest in Coca-Cola is that the bottlers have nearly the exact same name.

While you won’t see The Coca-Cola Company listed in the Soda Production report next to Pepsi and Dr. Pepper, what you will see listed is Coca-Cola Bottling Co. Consolidated, the largest independent bottler of Coca-Cola within the United States. The similar names are deceiving but the two are completely different companies, each listed separately on the New York Stock Exchange.

For clarification, here are the companies with the appropriate stock tickers:

Coca-Cola Company (KO): Parent Company

Coca-Cola Consolidated (COKE): Bottling Company

The Bottling Business
So, why does Coca-Cola have such a strange business model? Is it just to confuse us investors?

Dating all the way back to the early 1900s, the makers of Coca-Cola realized they could improve not only their productivity and efficiency, but also their profitability by having other companies do the manufacturing and distribution of their product. All Coke had to do is simply supply the raw material and allow the companies to use the Coca-Cola brand name; showing the immense power of brand recognition.

This business model grew more ingrained into the foundation of The Coca-Cola Company as their brand grew stronger worldwide. Demand for the red can, white lettering, and dark fizzing liquid inside, grew year after year in almost every country on earth. By 2020, the Coca-Cola network had 225 bottling partners in more than 200 countries; no surprise given that almost 85% of Coca-Cola’s sales come from outside the U.S.

The arrangement between The Coca-Cola Company and its bottlers is set out in contracts. Each one states which Coca-Cola products the bottler is able to sell, in what region they are allowed to sell, as well as dozens of other variables laid out to make the distribution of Coca-Cola products as streamlined as possible.

Coca-Cola Bottling Co. Consolidated for example, is authorized to sell 38 Coca-Cola products in 14 states and the District of Columbia. Coca-Cola Bottling also sells almost a dozen beverages outside of the Coca-Cola lineup including Dr. Pepper, Dunkin’ Donuts Coffee, and Monster Energy drinks.

Still, over 85% of the bottling company’s total sales were from Coca-Cola beverages, but even as the largest independent bottler in the United States, Coca-Cola Bottling still only brings in 12% of the revenue that The Coca-Cola Company brings in.

While The Coca-Cola Company offers funds for marketing efforts and other expenses, it largely leaves the bottlers to their own management. Each one gains its own retail customers within its given region and markets extensively to try and gain brand recognition. Incidentally, the vast majority of semi trucks and delivery vans plastered with the Coca-Cola logo are not actually owned by The Coca-Cola Company, but are instead owned by local bottlers.

The sales of almost all the bottling companies in the U.S. are highly concentrated in just a few large retailers. In 2019, Walmart represented 19% of Coca-Cola Bottling Co. Consolidated’s sales, with Kroger representing 12%.

The Worse End of the Deal
The bottlers undoubtedly have the worse end of the deal, as they have to purchase and maintain the manufacturing and distribution equipment while also having to pay The Coca-Cola Company a vast portion of its income.

In 2019, Coca-Cola Bottling Co. Consolidated brought in $4.8 billion in revenue, with $1.3 billion of that going to The Coca-Cola Company for concentrate and syrup, consumer marketing programs, as well as drink equipment. While this arrangement is not inherently bad, it just makes profitability a more laborious task for the bottling company.

See the difference between the two’s profitability for yourself:

COKE’s Profitability

Source: Stock Rover

KO’s Profitability

Source: Stock Rover

As you can see, KO’s profitability is higher in almost every regard, but the margins especially stand out. KO maintains a very robust 24% net profit margin, while COKE only operates at around 2%. Additionally, KO’s ROE is more than double COKE’s ROE.

Nevertheless, the Coca-Cola bottlers continue this arrangement with The Coca-Cola Company given that they have virtually no other option. Given how strong consumer brands are within the beverage and food markets, the bottlers would have no success in trying to develop their own soft drink line, even if they did have all the ingredients, manufacturing equipment, and distribution channels.

Although the bottlers may not have the most lucrative business, the Coca-Cola network shows the genius of the Coca-Cola management, which realized early on that the value of their product was not in the production, distribution, or even the taste. The business recognized it’s own economic moat: the value of a worldwide brand.
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KingOfTheNorth · Feb 23, 2022

BudFriendguy said: ↑

My guess is parents put a very high value on those moments where kids grow up in front of you and become actual people, and that is better to them than any toys or other superficial stuff.

Personally, kids annoy the shit out of me and I am very greedy and don't want to share my money with some little non-person for 18+ years.

To each their own.
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Same here. I am not a fan of kids they little shits. But once again I have been told once they are yours you feel different towards them. But same I am greedy and dont want to share my money with a little freeloader.

kairo · Feb 23, 2022

jandrews said: ↑

Nah. Your time and money are your property to use as you see fit. Nothing greedy about it.
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Nope. Tried to acquire guard giraffe once. Something about zoning and wild animals and nonsense from the city.

BudFriendguy · Feb 23, 2022

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Nope. Tried to acquire guard giraffe once. Something about zoning and wild animals and nonsense from the city.
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Bro just do the 69 IQ move and become a sovereign citizen. Giraffes all day err day.

kairo · Feb 23, 2022

BudFriendguy said: ↑

Bro just do the 69 IQ move and become a sovereign citizen. Giraffes all day err day.
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I DECLARE

BANKRUPTCY! wait, that's not right

SOVEREIGNTY!

kairo · Feb 23, 2022

So this is the game now? Every company just drops 20% after earnings?

jandrews · Feb 23, 2022

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Nope. Tried to acquire guard giraffe once. Something about zoning and wild animals and nonsense from the city.
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You can move. There are plenty of places on Earth where they're legal.

kairo · Feb 23, 2022

jandrews said: ↑

You can move. There are plenty of places on Earth where they're legal.
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My property, my rules. I want my giraffe right here.

KingOfTheNorth · Feb 23, 2022

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My property, my rules. I want my giraffe right here.
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Can Giraffe's survive in Washington?

kairo · Feb 23, 2022

KingOfTheNorth said: ↑

Can Giraffe's survive in Washington?
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Good question. I live in Nevada. They'd like it here. It's a lot like Africa except in the winter when it snows. I'd have to make it a scarf

jandrews · Feb 23, 2022

kairo[OP] said: ↑

So this is the game now? Every company just drops 20% after earnings?

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Maybe, but goodness is Coca Cola a fantastic company. I mean really, really well run in every respect.

kairo · Feb 23, 2022

jandrews said: ↑

Maybe, but goodness is Coca Cola a fantastic company. I mean really, really well run in every respect.
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ye gads that's a lot of words to read

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