Still think TITNC3: Return of the Iceberg was peak

Why 50%? Just do away with short selling all together. If you want to bet on a company going down, buy a put, which is still a long position.

 

L M F A O come on man...

lol

 

Short selling keeps companies honest, it has a purpose. It has risks too of course.

 

Lol. No. It has zero purpose. The only reason for short selling is to influence selling and profit off of the arbitrage. And it's only used by MMs and hedge funds who have billions to drive your company into bankruptcy and profit off of it all the way down.

Man the media has really done a number making a bunch of complacent traders.

 

If your company has an unjustified valuation, short sellers come in to rectify it. I like it, I don’t do it, but appreciate the market for it.

 

You're completely ignoring the fact that it does not work like this in our current markets. Also look at the tech valuations over the last decade lol. Where were the shorts? Where was the "justified valuation?" It's so, just, criminally corrupt all the way through that it's laughable.

Dark pools/off exchange trading to route buys off the lit exchanges and sells onto the lit exchanges
Pulling apart ETFs to short individual stocks
FTDs
OTM puts used to cover FTDs without buying shares

"Governments are great because they create rules within which all humans live in harmony" is essentially the same argument, and we both know that's patently false.

 

You got a list of quality companies that have been driven into bankruptcy by these short sellers?

 

Why yes, yes I do

Blockbuster
Sears
Toys R Us
Ubiquitech Software
Renova Health
GNCC Capital
Saddle Ranch Media
Nutranomics

Also take a peek at that one guy from Utah. Pretty much anything his bust out corp has touched has filed for bankruptcy and now trades on an exchange that...surprise! You and I can't trade on.

It's all a giant fucking scam.

 

We'd legit have a bunch more useful medicine if hedge funds didn't keep shorting pharma startups out of business

 

Nobody had the balls to short those companies, and that’s fine, let the market figure it out. I don’t like corruption as much as you don’t, but you know that. I’m talking about short sales within the rules.

 

They were on their way out and short sellers gambles and won.

 

They're not playing within the rules though lol. They're just not. They're doing whatever the fuck they want to do and nobody will stop them because the .gov and the SEC are all owned by the very people breaking the rules.

 

NO, THEY WEREN'T. They were busted up and broken out to make it easier for the hedge funds to make money off of the downfall. This is all proven fact. There's no argument against it.

 

Sears? Blockbuster? I asked for quality

 

Are you able to define a quality business? Is it within your right to do so? Who's to say what's a quality business and what's not?

There's been a lot of promising energy and cancer research companies shorted out of existence because it doesn't fit the billionaire narrative.

Short selling is a scourge and has no place in the markets. Let companies fail on their own. They don't need "help" to find their true valuation when billionaires decide that a startup's IP is infringing on their revenue streams. The entire market is a fraud and people need to pay attention to it.

 

Blockbuster passed on buying Netflix and got left behind. People stopped renting videos from the store. Seems pretty cut and dry.

 

Blockbuster buying netflix would never have made netflix what it is today. They didn't miss out on a golden goose. Netflix at that time was a DVD by mail company. There was no reason blockbuster wanted them other than to cut out the competition in the movie rental market

 

The investor decides it, and if they’re right, profit; if they’re wrong, losses. It’s a risk.

 

No, the investor doesn't decide. The algorithms written by hedge funds and market makers decide. There's no equality in the market.

 

Use what we have to your advantage. No need to complain about what you can’t control.