stock dunlap tires suck

THIS is SD snow. Again, the Dunlops don't cut it.

 

'MERICA!

 

Oh hell no!

 

dunlops don't cut it?


but nah i wouldn't run dunlops out there, i'd invest in a sled and some huskies

 

Yo, if people live in a region that has harsh winter driving wouldn't logic dictate to have snow tires. Nothing beats snows in the winter. The rubber is a different composition. Even an AT can't out perform a winter tire in the snow/slush/ice. Believe me, driving the mountains of BC it's not even a question. The safety factor is worth the money.

 

There are two different treadwear rating AT20's (a 300 and a 500 IIRC). Toyota puts the hardest rubber compound AT20 on for better life expectancy and fuel economy. The softer AT20 actually isn't that bad. They have performed well enough in rain, light snow, soft sand, and rocks. The only issue I'm seeing is that the trails I drive are starting to chew them up pretty bad.

 

I may have figured a use for Dunlop tires. I have a home built garden tractor trailer made with a early (1914-1919) model T Ford dropped straight axle(oil cup lube, not greased). Maybe if I mount them as duals, they might hold up if I do not go too fast(4-6 MPH).

 

i got rid of the dunflops with a little over 100 miles on my 2011. i had read so many bad reviews of those tires, it was not worth it to me to keep crappy tires on my truck. someone on this forum bought them for $100 apiece. applied those towards a set of hankook dynapros. have not looked back.

we average 170 inches of snow a year here in the syracuse ny area. this winter has been mild by comparison. and while it would be nice to have a dedicated set of snows and summer tires, my finances do not allow for that.

 

When winter comes you put winter tires on I can't tell you how bad they are in the snow because I had Winter Force tires on before it snowed that's what we do in snow country. I have no real complaints with them in the spring and summer.

 

Ok you made your point you didn't feel safe! But my question is if you had 3 close calls in 3 days maybe it is your driving skills, I don't live in a place that sees as much snow as you,as a proffesional driver I see all kinds of people that think thay are the best drivers in the world .As I see every day your average driver drives entirely too close to the 4 wheeler in front of them.So what I'm saying is back off a bit and those close calls might not happen.8 seconds following time on dry roads is a very good rule so on ice/wet/snow roads means a safer following distance.Fall back a bit more.

 

After reading your posts. It really sounds like you DO NOT know how to drive in snow. You sound like one of those dudes that is driving 60 on a snow/slush cover freeway passing every one in cars throwing up slush in their windshields. I bet even flipping them bird if they don't get out of your way?

Sounds like you need to take a winter driving course. Just because you have lived in the snow all your life does not mean you automatically know how to drive in it.

Try cutting 25% of your speed when on snow instead of trying to find a tire that will let you go the speed limit.

If you are going 30 mph in a 60 mph speed zone and you cause a wreck a cop can still give you a ticket for driving to fast.

 

Good call,you know my day is not complete till I get the bird then I can go home and drink beer.

 

My 2000 Taco came with Michelin MTX's. I wonder what happened to putting them on the trucks? My 2011 came with Dunlop AT20's so far no problems. I know on the 2005 4runner they sucked ass and rode like crap. Put a set of Toyo's on it and WOW! The runner rides like a cadillac.

 

I must be in the minority, or the Dunlops and later Sumitomos on my Honda were that much more terrible, but I have zero trouble with the AT20s in the snow. As far as I'm concerned they're very good at it as far as all seasons go, and I'd even wager they're better in the white stuff than the Rugged Fails I drove a few years ago. My taco definitely inspires more confidence than an AWD CR-V with Assurance Tripletreds on it and that says a lot.

I drove 30 miles on black ice the other night. Wasn't even white knuckled. Just took it easy, left myself enough safety room, and locked in 4WD and it wasn't even a nervous drive, even stopping. Other cars were going sideways, going in the ditch, etc.

I guess I don't get what the bad rap is about. Shoot its the middle of winter and I still have 40 psi in them and they still don't suck.

 

I have to agree, the stock tires are poor. Maybe on a front wheel drive car they are OK but not a rear wheel PU. Poor choice by Toyota. Having a very mild winter in NY, but these tires will be gone in September. They are good rain and dry street tires though. JMHO.

 

Well that's why Toyota put them on the truck. Would you have been all right if it had come with snow tires in the summer? I like my Winter Force but there is no way I could stand the snow tire noise year round.

 

Took my dunlops off the day I bought the truck. Put a set of wrangler duratracs on from my old truck. Amazing tires. I've owned 3 sets now and put over 75,000 Kms on each and still had tread left on them.

 

that WAS the problem!!! that's what led me to write this post... i'm just creepin along nice and easy on city streets, come to a slow gentle stop giving myself plenty of room behind the vehicle in front of me... WAY slower than what should be necessary (based on 20 years of winter driving experience in SD) and then WTF i start to brake, the ABS starts chatting and i'm suddenly in collision avoidance mode. or cornering at less than 5mph and the tires begin to plow and again- collision avoidance mode. well, i'm retiring from this thread- do with it what you will... i'll just end by saying that i'm LOVING my new michelins. the difference is night and day. and i no longer have the aforementioned problems. my truck now responds like a tacoma should.