Stock tires suck

Smitty, good observation on the Duratrac over the KO2. I can't recall where but I read an article a week or two ago where a new Raptor was reviewed and they called the KO2 "flat out dangerous" in the rain. Some may disagree or maybe they take some getting used to but I have read a lot of issues with them in the rain and they won't clean out as well in the mud as the Duratrac. I do like the looks of them though but have never owned a set.

 

It depends on your needs. If rock crawling is your forte then go with the added weight and piece of mind of an E rated tire. I don't want the mpg hit, added weight, and don't need the stronger tire but the C will offer additional protection, albeit minor, and may hold up better over time. In certain tires the C does have extra tread so that alone is enough for me.

 

Sure, I just meant actual strength of the tire - not tread depth.

1/8" of extra tread isn't going to do much to the average puncture device, which for me is almost always a 2-3" screw.

 

I have only bought Grabber AT2's for my Taco's I love those things so much.

 

oye.... so many replies and I'm sitting here speechless..... do "it" 2x and call it 4-6" problem solved.

 

I really like the grabber AT2's as well, I'm just not prepaired to spend a grand on 5 new tires yet.

 

Goodyear is willing to pay 50% for a new tire.

 

Below is an article that explains a lot of the differences. I must admit that I got a little dizzy half way in but the main takeaway for me was:
All load range “C” tires (the old “6-ply” rating) can be inflated to 50 psi, “D” (8-ply) to 65 psi and “E” (10-ply) to 80 psi. LT tires are designed to minimize internal heat and to endure elevated internal heat levels for long periods. Typically, LT tires are made of higher quality materials than P-metric tires, and their construction is much more robust, with heavier sidewalls and denser, higher quality steel belts.

LT tires also are designed to endure greater physical abuse than P-metric tires, and some LTs are similar to the heavy-duty tires fitted to 18-wheelers and buses, using all-steel construction. LTs can handle sidewall abrasions better than P-metrics and are better suited to off-road and construction site use. Usually, LT tires have deeper tread depths than their P-metric counterparts.
http://www.tirereview.com/tire-types-and-load-capacity/

 

That article blows, actually. It's the most generic information possible regarding tires and tire construction.

The difference between load ranges and where the additional plies are located when comparing an SL, C, D, E load tire are more useful information than max PSI capabilities and the obvious mention of deeper tread depths.

 

Anyhoo..

My stockers were 5/32 at 22k miles. Good riddance.

 

And it goes through the usual you have to inflate the LT to a higher psi for it to be as strong in an equivalent size stuff too. I have found that most of these article are generic like this because all we are doing is regurgitating the same stuff over and over. Based on this I took out "great". LOL

My experience has been LT tires have a stronger sidewall and are built better. Even a C rated tire is generally built better but tires also vary so much from one manufacturer to the next until it is hard to make a lot of generic claims. If I could find a P or C tire that would meet my needs in the size I wanted, I would buy it.

Unfortunately for me my tire buying aspirations are sidelined until I get this stupid rear diff howling fixed because there is no way I'm putting on a more aggressive tire just to hear Toyota say "it's your tires" making that noise.

 

I think they have a purpose, they do their stock job pretty well. I definitely wouldn't buy them.

My absolute favorite tire is the Duratrac, it had fantastic snow performance with my jeep and did reasonably well off road. But it had great highway manners and looked good to boot. That's going underneath his thing when I wear out this set.

 

Shhhh! No it's not. It's terrible. I hate going up there to chase Apache Trout!

As for tires, you likely know AZ's rocks can be brutal on tires. I'm changing out my stockers hopefully next week for some Discoverer ST Maxx's and throwing the stockers on the Gen1 before I sell it.

If you typically don't venture too far off the beaten path, the stockers or Duratracs could be decent choices. If you do get really far out there though and NEED tires to not fail, I'd stay away from either of those, or carry an extra spare, as well as tire repair options.

You couldn't pay me enough to run Duracraps on a truck that saw dirt / sticks / rocks again. And damn sure not when I've got a long walk out when they do fail.

Wanted to love them, but they proved unworthy of anything other than street use or the trash bin for me.

Seems to be a few problems with the stock Goodyears with flats...

Back when I bought my last one, it had the stock Bridgestone HT's on it. Those held up far better than I ever expected, and made me a Bridgestone fan for a while....until they stopped selling the MT in 265/75R-16. Went through 2 sets of those Bridgestone MT's with not a problem. Great tires IMO. As are the current Goodyear MTR's on my Gen 1. But looking for something a little more in the middle between AT and MT this time. Duratracs are out, so it is time to give the ST Maxx a try.

 

I absolutely hated the tires that came with my OR, I was sliding everywhere in the mud and got stuck twice with them. I'm running Cooper s/t maxx now and they haven't failed me once. Get some of those, they won't break on you. 10 ply e rated baby lol

 

I've decided to pay my half the cost of a new Goodyear and hopefully not have anymore problems for the life of the tires. $100 is a lot better than $1000 right now especially since I'm trying to pay for a wedding at the moment. I am however interested in updating the spare rim for a matching rim if anybody has any for sale. I've been searching the for sale thread all morning.

 

Stock GoodYear Wrangler Kevlar tires: Meh... 15k and seven flat tires.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/i-know-why-the-bros-buy-ko2s.461893/