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Strut Spacer With Rancho Extended Struts

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Fatal_Paradox, Jun 4, 2018.

  1. Jun 4, 2018 at 12:33 PM
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    Fatal_Paradox

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    I'm Trying to clear a P285/70R17 Tire on a 17x9 wheel. I'm hitting basically everything. I have about 2.5 inches of lift in the front from the Rancho Struts. I also have 2in hub centric wheel spacers. I'm wanting to add a 1.25in strut spacer on top of these. Does anyone know if this is possible? If so will my CA's and CV be able to handle it? I have read that the 1.25 strut spacer gives about 2in of lift. which would put me in at about 4in of lift.
     
  2. Jun 4, 2018 at 12:43 PM
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    Your cv angles would probably be very bad hard to get an alignment even with new ucas

    Have you beaten down the pinch weld and trimmed the linner? Have you gotten a good alignment? What bs is your wheels.

    Judging buy how lots of guys clear 33s with only minor rubbing on a 2.5” lift im guessing you are doing something wrong
     
  3. Jun 4, 2018 at 12:46 PM
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    Also when @jbrandt sees this he will tell you all the negatives of strut spacers and stacking lifts lol
     
  4. Jun 4, 2018 at 12:47 PM
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    while physically possible, 4" cannot be aligned, cv's will shred, and it'll be super shitty.

    3" is just about max, 2.5" is ideal for reliability. If your not wheeling the truck, body lift or drop bracket lift will be the best bet to clear those tires.

    However, not sure what your hitting, I was clearing a 1/10th of an inch smaller size with no rub on 2.5" of lift, stock wheels.
     
  5. Jun 4, 2018 at 12:51 PM
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    Im aware of the pinch weld mod and will do it. However It hits my fender flare and front bumper. So I havent even got to that yet to see if it it hits. I cant even turn my wheels half way without hitting. I also have to keep my 2in wheel spacers on or my new wheels will not clear the brake caliper. My wheels have a -12mm offset and 4.5 backspacing.
     
  6. Jun 4, 2018 at 12:54 PM
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    3.75 bs would be better. Your wheels are pushed so far out thats why it’s hitting alot. Do yo have pics of your truck?
     
  7. Jun 4, 2018 at 12:58 PM
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    This is the pic of it hitting the fender flare. ouch.jpg
     
  8. Jun 4, 2018 at 1:07 PM
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    damnit man! You had to drag me into this...

    But since I'm here now, I'll also tell you they aren't struts, but coilovers. :D

    @Fatal_Paradox, you generally shouldn't go more than 3" of lift without doing a bracket style lift (pre-runners can sometimes go more than 3, but not much - and only because there are no CVs to worry about). You get into a lot of alignment, steering, and CV angle issues with more than 3". A diff drop kit can help, but even then, diff drop kits only drop the diff an inch. Also, with 3" (even oftentimes 2.5") you end up needing new UCAs to help get proper alignment.I doubt you will get it aligned with 4".

    The other problem with spacers on top of a coilover is that you may end up bottoming out the shock before hitting the bumstops (=bad!), in which case you'd need to extend your lower bumpstops to prevent that. This reduces the amount of wheel travel since your droop travel stays the same, but you are limiting up travel. IFS has very little suspension travel to begin with, so I would try to avoid further limiting the IFS wheel travel...

    Most guys with 33's will have about 3" of lift, and end up doing some minor trimming, like the pinch weld and the plastic fender liner. Your problem might also be related to the backspacing of your wheels or the ridiculously huge 2" wheel spacers you have. Why do you have such huge wheel spacers?

    Lurk around the tires/wheel section, or do a search for your wheels and see what people are running with similar equipment.
     
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    You need a alignment to pull the wheel forward more
     
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    You explain it so well, i had to call you over for this lol
     
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    You happened to catch me in a more helpful mood, vs. the snarky hater mood I'm usually in...
     
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    He said he is already hitting the front fender too.
     
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    Okay I have had an alignment done before the wheels and tires were put on. @Sperrunner what do you mean to pull them forward? I also never wanted to add those strut spacers. I hated them that's why I took them off and replaced them with the rancho's. I also don't want to cut my fender flares. I don't care to cut the inner lining or the front bumper and to do the pinch weld mod. I had the wheel spacers to clear my UCA after I did my lift. I was rubbing. So I got wider wheels to eliminate that. But it didnt work out. I already have the wheels and tires. Its not an option to get new ones. I have to make this work.
     
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    Trim, but it’s probably because his wheel stick out so far
     
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    Yup, that's the answer. Start cutting:sawzall:
     
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    You need the caster around 4 or 5 on the alignment which pulls the wheel forward in the well.
     
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    Yeah that I couldn’t remember what that was called for the life of me
     
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    @JaCado After I did my lift and got it aligned. The shop said I would never get it truly aligned because of my pitman arm. Will they be able to do this with this issue?
     
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    I was told by my brother in law (who claims to be a mechanic) that if you run a - offset wheel and/or spacer then it makes the tires and wheel swing out further during your turns thus causing it to hit and rub.
     
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    @sportracer829 This is true, but I had to space out to clear the frame and my UCA after my 2.5 in lift. Even when I was on stock wheels and P265/75/16R
     
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