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Stubborn Oil Leak...Need help identifying source.

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by CitizenSnips5, Jul 31, 2021.

  1. Jul 31, 2021 at 6:02 PM
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    CitizenSnips5

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    Hi all,

    Have a 1998 2.7L Taco that's had a small oil leak ever since I bought it from the previous owner (convenient). I've been ignoring it for the better part of the summer now, but the droplets on the driveway are beginning to add up and I figured it'd be best to solve it permanently.

    At first, I thought it was the oil pan. So I removed it, cleaned very thoroughly, and applied new FIPG...Only to find the leak still remained. I assumed I must have put the FIPG on incorrectly, so I took it off (again) and tried a second time being extra careful. I knew I was dead-on this time and still, the leak remained. So after that endeavor, I kind of gave up for a while until now.

    After looking more closely it looks like it may be from the oil pump?

    See video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndx3Eq2yUZE

    -1st angle is looking through the side of the front skid plate at the oil pump from the passenger side.
    -2nd angle is underneath.
    -3rd angle is above looking downward past the belts.

    This looks like a total pain to deal with but would love to hear from anyone else more experienced before I dive into it.

    Thank you!
     
  2. Jul 31, 2021 at 8:38 PM
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    I went down an oil leak rabbit hole before. Thought it was the oil pan and front crank seal. Both were fixed and the leak remained.

    check you oil filter mount, there are 2 o-rings where it meets the block.

    If you have coil packs there is a seal behind the mount for them. I discovered a leak here after putting dye in the oil.

    check your rear main seal as well. I now have a slow leak here that is not worth fixing. It requires removing the whole transmission.
     
  3. Jul 31, 2021 at 8:55 PM
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    Not sure where it's at on yours (I have a 2nd gen) but I had a gremlin like this and suspected the valve cover gasket and then the oil filter..turned out to be the pressure sending unit, easy fix
     
  4. Jul 31, 2021 at 8:57 PM
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    Oil pressure sender is on that side of the block too. Mine was broken and leaking. Its been a year, but I'm pretty sure its that white connector.

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  5. Jul 31, 2021 at 11:29 PM
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    Looks kinda like the front seal. If it’s not that I’d double check the timing chain cover even though yours looks pretty clean going down the side
     
  6. Aug 1, 2021 at 6:26 AM
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    I suggest degreasing the engine heavily so there is no sign of wet oil anywhere. Then put a tracer dye in the oil and use a UV light to find the leak after driving enough to show oil on the engine.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002M4G24U?ie=UTF8
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003JOB594?ie=UTF8

    I was able to successfully diagnose a rear main seal leak (as well as others with this). Don't just guess, plan it out and find the source.
     
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    Working with Hydraulics I use brake clean to clean oil leaks so it drys quick, run the engine and check all over, you will find it, good luck.
     
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    2.7's have a problem with the oil filter mount leaking.
     
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  9. Sep 14, 2021 at 4:02 PM
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    Hi all,

    Wanted to revive this thread because I finally had some free time to clean some oil and I actually pin-pointed exactly where the leak is coming from:



    So I'm dead certain this is the leak, because it's repeatable. Immediately after turning the engine on a small pool will form right where the dipstick connects to the engine, in the video you can even see it seep out. Is it possible that the dipstick tube is causing the leak? I've never heard of that before but it's the only thing I can think of. Let me know what you guys think based on the video.
     
  10. Sep 14, 2021 at 5:44 PM
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    have you checked to see if there's an O'ring that could need replacing. when was the last time you changed the PCV valve. It could be causing undue pressure in your engine forcing the oil out the dip stick tube.
     
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    No idea if there's an Oring down there or not. Also don't know when the PCV Valve was changed. I bought the truck last year at 170K no clue when the previous owner would have done so. I looked it up though and I'm reading up some horror stories of the grommet falling into the engine and then the whole valve cover has to come off
     
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    yes,you have to be careful when removing the grommet. Take the PCV out and shake to see if it rattles. If the grommet is brittle, just be extremely careful removing it. I had to use a flash light and a 3 pronged grabber gizmo to get out my broken pieces.
     
  13. Sep 14, 2021 at 6:31 PM
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    There is definitely an o-ring there, I have replaced it before. You definitely want to just replace the pcv valve since you don’t know how old it is. It’s only $10-15 and quick and easy to replace.
     
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    So I pulled the dipstick tube out by just undoing one bolt that holds it like a bracket near the top of the engine and saw that Oring on the other end. Honestly it looks fine, still rubbery and not brittle at all. What confuses me is what that bolt is right next to where the dipstick tube meets the engine, almost like it’s the dipstick tube holder? Does that make sense? That’s the bolt directly where I think the small oil puddle is releasing from in the video.

    Also ordered a new PCV Valve.

    EDIT: Found out what it was thanks to the handy Hayne's! It's a Timing Chain Cover bolt, 12mm size, torque 14 ft lbs. I'm gonna see if I can fenagle a large extension to try and get it out without removing a bunch of other stuff, put some sealer around it, and hopefully get it back in there. Will report results!
     
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  15. Sep 16, 2021 at 2:41 AM
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    Absolutely easy fix.
    You have to order the special configured gasket and replace it. Its made of neoprene like an O-ring.
     
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