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Stupid question about wheelin with an automatic

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Hiker, Aug 12, 2011.

  1. Aug 12, 2011 at 10:57 PM
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    I've owned Toyota 4bys now for 28 years with my first being an 83'. I currently own a 99' and looking to buy a newer one, 06'-08' 4dr, long bed. Everyone I've ever owned was a stick shift, but I'm wanting to get an automatic mainly due to the type of work I do. Question is....when wheelin in an auto....especially in low range, do you leave it in D and pull it down to 2 or 3. Not sure if I would ever put it in 1 unless I was really climbing something narly. Thanks
     
  2. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:00 PM
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    imo - it dont matter where u put it. only limits the upshifts. if u leave it in D it will go through all the gears. If its in 2, then ull only use 1st n 2nd gear.

    if u just have it in D its always gonna start out in 1st - in any gear will start out in 1st. cuz its 1st gear.
     
  3. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:01 PM
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    I just leave mine in drive. Either 4hi or 4lo gets the job done.
     
  4. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:02 PM
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    The shifter limits the gear that the truck will shift up to .

    If you stick it in 3 , it will shift through L , 2 , and 3 , but not use 4 or D

    If you want to limit the truck to low gears , just shift it there
     
  5. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:02 PM
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    I drive a manual, but I'm positive I would use 1st in 4-low if I had an automatic tranny.... But that's because I take the truck places where low and slow is the predominant mantra.

    I know many people who wheel with auto's, and they are hesitant to engage 4 low... they struggle, and beat up their truck.

    Bottom line, use all the gears provided if the situation requires it.
     
  6. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:09 PM
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    I use 4LO when I need to decend steep hills covered in snow , choose a low gear , give it some throttle and drive down , no brakes
     
  7. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:12 PM
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    i go as fast as i can. i use 4lo only if when i get stuck lol
     
  8. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:13 PM
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    so tonight i actually got to use my truck to its full limits i was doing some pretty gnarly climbs and the last one i did was nuthing but loose rock and dirt so i had it in 4lo diff lock in and a-trac engaged this was the first time i used a-trac and man it is wicked i would sit and spin for a second then keep climbing i am going to try and go do it again 2morrow and get a video of it

    edit also i have an auto and i was in lo gear
     
  9. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:16 PM
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    It depends, i usually use it in D when i neevd 4hi/lo i use it, but it depends on the situation, like going up sandy hills, keeping it in D will allow you to get to a certain point, then when the gear shifts you have that huge power loss so you'll then get stuck on the way up.
     
  10. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:29 PM
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    Actually, A-TRAC only works if you lose traction.. and if that happens your speed is naturally pretty close to zero.

    Try not using the rear locker at all... just A-TRAC. This is Toyota's recommendation (only use the rear locker to get unstuck).

    After driving rear locker Tacomas for 10 years, I have found the A-TRAC an amazing system and have used it only in all the places that required the rear locker before.
     
  11. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:32 PM
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    Hi Hiker... In low range, all your tranny gears are way low, and different from each other as they are in high range... So, drop below D if you need to limit your downhill speed with engine compression... for crawling, etc. Just try it and you will see!
     
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    Really? We went through some pretty tough trails a couple weeks ago. Some technical spots with large rocks, ditch's, etc.. I used 4lo and the locker and it just climbed up EVERYTHING with ease.
     
  13. Aug 12, 2011 at 11:34 PM
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    I never use 4lo
     
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    A-TRAC, when turned on, is in standby mode except when a wheel spins loose... rear locked or not.

    If the driver has gotten stuck and engages the rear locker (perhaps because he didn't push the A-TRAC button when he went into L4), the A-TRAC is active until he gets moving... and yes, above 3 mph (while the rear is locked) it won't do anything... but it doesn't do antything anyway except if you start slipping.

    Really, really you with A-TRAC should get out more and have some fun... see if you can get stuck.

    With only one tire on solid ground, A-TRAC can pull your truck free... even if facing uphill and the one tire is a front tire.
     
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    Maybe instead of telling others what to do, get a hobby?

    For general interest, not just for Christian:

    A-TRAC doesn't function when you are driving along at any speed... it works when you stop moving because one tire on each axle looses traction... it brakes that loose tire to a point where enough torque/ power transfers to the traction tire to move you ahead... in essance matches tire rotation/ equalizing torque to both... as a locker also does.

    Because your differentials are open, there is never any stress on the driveline using A-TRAC and steering is not affected as it is with lockers.

    A-TRAC works on all 4 tires... but if you locked the rear differential, it can only help you on the front axle... If your speed goes above 3 MPH the computer stops monitoring wheel spin on the front tires (A-TRAC deactivated).

    My point to Christian, is in reality A-TRAC really doesn't do anything until you start to get stuck with wheel spin... so your speed is going to be near zero... likely less than 4 mph... even with the rear un-locked.

    Try A-TRAC instead of the locker in places where you needed the locker before or in places your previous, non-locker 4WD couldn't go.

    The main thing is to HAVE FUN 4 WHEELING!
     
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    Well....this post sure took a 180 turn. Thanks for all the replies. I have no problem keeping it in 4H while wheelin around in the light stuff, but when I get into something really hairy, I'd hate for the tranny to go back and forth all the time. Seems like it would make sense to just run it in 2 or 3 at low speed in sand or mud runs and maybe 1 for climbing something shit. Seems odd leaving it in drive when out wheelin thru the rough stuff. Anyone ever run a manual valve body? Should be interesting when I get it. Hopefully by years end. I want to pay cash so I'm dropping 2-3 grand in saving every month. Should have enough by Dec, maybe Jan. Looking for a black crew cab, long bed, 05' -08'. You'll be seeing more of me on here. Thanks again...
     
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    dang. that post turned into a shit slinging contest. o_o idk who won though.

    to the OP: i hope you found what you were looking for. :)
     
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    I am happy he is going to ignore me, as it seems that no matter how friendly one tries to be, some folks prefer to be combative.. then tell you what you can say. Sorry for the distraction Hiker! Have a great day!
     
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    The OP is looking for a dc long box

    ATrac shouldn't have even come up in this thread .
     
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    I'm not pointing fingers , just stating a fact that ATRAC is irrelivant in this discussion because the OP wants an 05-08 dc longbed
     
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