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Sundown dual SD3/Hybrid Audio audio build Q & A

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by Zac of all trades, May 9, 2016.

  1. Jun 9, 2016 at 4:59 PM
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    Hey Zac, did you get a template with your SD10s? Or do you happen to recall the cutout diameter or have that info handy anywhere? I'm about to start building an enclosure for one & just realized their website gives both 9.25 and 9.45 inches in 2 different places. Any idea which is correct?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Jun 9, 2016 at 7:49 PM
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  4. Jun 9, 2016 at 7:51 PM
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    for non counter sunk the cut out is 9 1/4
     
  5. Jun 9, 2016 at 7:57 PM
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    Hrmm. This drawing, which is the other value I was referencing, makes it look like you need 9.45" or 240mm

    [​IMG]
     
  6. Jun 9, 2016 at 8:02 PM
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    I did 9.25" and cut it with a jigsaw. One cut came out nice and the other I had to sand a bit in a couple places. What material are you using to make your box?
     
  7. Jun 9, 2016 at 8:03 PM
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    i see, yeah different specs... weird
     
  8. Jun 9, 2016 at 8:04 PM
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    I just did the math on the drawing and it's saying 9.44". I called sundown a few times and they can answer any questions you have.
     
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    Thanks for that y'all. I think I'll just wait 'till tomorrow & ring the phone. Not like I have anything to put in the hole yet anyway.

    I'm using MDF Zac. I'm not crazy about the quality of this stuff though. I think there will be another enclosure at some point, but I have enough cheesy carpet left to do this one. And it's kinda already built - just waiting for glue and a hole. I'm going to be on the hunt for some Baltic birch & someone better with a saw. Gawsh, I should probably drop Mr Marv a line. He might be able to throw together a quick knock-down kit.
     
  10. Jun 9, 2016 at 8:42 PM
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    I used birch for mine. 3/4" MDF is recommended for sub enclosures. Anything less is too weak... the real concern is will the magnet hit the back channel piece? I cut my hole pretty low because the magnet on these are very big!

    Here are a couple images from when I had a solo baric l5. I cut a circle to see how it would fit. It did not fit because of how big i made the channel in the box. Obviously this was a terrible box...
    20160513_211924.jpg
    20160513_211915.jpg
     
  11. Jun 9, 2016 at 8:49 PM
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    Yeah, I'd never use thinner than 3/4 MDF. Especially on something like the SD10. I'd like to stop using it at all. I just need to find a local supplier.
     
  12. Jun 9, 2016 at 8:57 PM
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    I used Google maps and searched "wood working" and called a couple local store to check stock and prices.

    Either way make sure you mount the box to the rear wall. Helps with the rattle and the sub sounds better when box doest move...
     
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    Yeah, it does seem to make a big difference if it's secure. I'm using the same mounting mechanism as before...have 2 enclosures I can rapid-swap now. Probably gonna be 3 before 2017 :rolleyes:
     
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    Just got off the phone with Sundown. The drawing is correct. The correct cutout diameter for the SD3 10 inch is 9.45" or 240mm.
     
  15. Jun 10, 2016 at 8:46 AM
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7WnAzt0aMw

    Quick video of the sound with the DSP and a couple hours to learn and play with the sound processor.

    The 1200w amp is currently on the way(1st one was defective), right now both subs are running about 300w rms each.
     
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    Ok so more tuning has been done. The gains for the highs have been dropped alot, the crossovers & slopes are set where they need to be, but still needs some more love. I will get a new video up with the same some to compare the difference to.

    Here is a pic of what my settings are at now...
    Tweeter settings...
    upload_2016-6-17_15-20-59.jpg

    Mids settings
    upload_2016-6-17_15-21-26.jpg

    Sub settings
    upload_2016-6-17_15-22-6.jpg
     
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  17. Jun 23, 2016 at 9:43 AM
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    What song is this? I wanna play it on my sa's and see ehat excursion i can get. Thats a nice setup you got goin on.
     
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    MDF? have you guys tried BB ply for subs yet?

    far less poisonous woodworking debris and stiffer
     
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    I only exclusively use BB on all my installs.
    1/2 BB works fantastic. I also simply cut a regular wooden dowl to size to brace the baffle to the rear. So easy :)
     

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