super swampers

has anyone ran 33 inch tsl radials, tsl bias, or ltb's on their trucks??? I have buckshot mudders right now and I was wondering how well the super swampers hole up in longevity compared to my buckshots and do the swampers flat spot bad.... thanks fellas.

 

Dinwiddie County ??? I'm just up the road from ya, building a 99 TRD X-cab in Colonial Heights.

All Biased tires will flat spot over night or when sitting, worse when cold. Most will clear up once the tires warm up. I've run 29" / 31" / 33" / 36" / 38" TSL's, 34"LTB's, 33" / 35" Boggers, & 30" / 31" / 32" / 33" / 35" BFG MT's. For me now that I'm older it's more about the ride. I'll still keep swamper on the off road stuff, but radials on the daily driver. The tread wear isn't bad on swampers compared to the improved performance off road. The part that kills it for me is most I've run were not balanceable much past 1/2 tread. At that point you swap from wheel weights to BB's and let them ride.

My favorite tire so far is the 34" Swamper LTB.

Here below is the amount of BB's per tire by weight / to tire size.. (This is based off of comercial powder balancing.) I usually weigh up the bb's on a postal scale or digital AC refrigerant scale.

225/75 R16 3 oz.
235/70 R16 3 oz.
235/85 R16 3 oz.
245/75 R16 3 oz.
265/75 R16 4 oz.
255/85 R16 4 oz.
285/75 R16 4 oz.
7.50 R16 3 oz.
8.25 R16 6 oz.
9.00 R16 8 oz.
33x9.50 R15 4 oz.
33x10.50 R15 4 oz.
33x12.50 R15 4 oz.
35x12.50 R15 6 oz.

 

yeah, your right down the road from me... did the tsl radials flat spot bad??? and how much tread life did you get out of them?? thanks

 

Its technically not legal to run bias ply tires on the hwy nor would I, as the whole reason the not legal is they would get hot and could fail while driving. but there great off road. no doubt about that.

I run the Super Swamper SSR Radials and im on my 2nd year of running them.

 

I usually run straight up Swampers on my past vehicles, when I put tires on this time, I went with some 285/75/16 TRXUS. I couldn't be happier, not real loud but you know they are there and they ride pretty damn good for a fairly aggressive tire, road force balanced and I am good to go. We will see what kinda mileage I get and wear. I am a tire maintenance fool and cross rotate evry oil change and constantly check air pressure. So what is it with the VA dudes and Swampers. The secret lies within Bodacious.

 

oh yeah... it definately has something to do with bodacious. Been there plenty of times I think... haha. Yes I have been there but remembering everything after a case of beer every night is a little hard to do. All I know is everytime I go there, I get turned around in cartersville on the backroads and have to backpedel my way there eventually. Granted cartersville is not even a town, its a community, i think the only thing there is Bodacious.

 

The statement above "Its technically not legal to run bias ply tires on the hwy" is FALSE... Please show me the law that states running Biased ply tires on the Hwy is illegal. Do you know how many collage kids drive back and forth out of state in lifted trucks with biased ply tires. Most of them don't drive slow. I'm running 38" TSL's on my 1-ton 4dr tow rig.



In Virginia It is against the law for me to run bias on the rear and radial on the front, but otherwise you are good.

Va & Swampers ???

All (4) are stuck


This was the bypass and those are 35x16-15 Boggers (Locked)


I have not run Swamper radials yet. Generally bias tread life has been good, but most of my experience has been on lighter (samurai's).

 

As Far as I knw there not DOT approved. and its a proven fact that Bias ply tires can over heat and Fail on the Hwy! thats all im saying im not knocking it! Im running the 10ply Radials and love them. but If I was going to get Bias Ply tires, they would be trail only!

 

Also, major disadvantages of a bias tire: increased rolling resistance and less control and traction at higher speeds.

 

From National Tire & Wheel's web page:

http://www.ntwonline.com/BOGGER_-_SUPER_SWAMPER_INTERCO_P7054C35.cfm

What can you say about the Bogger other than it is the nastiest, baddest, off-road tire ever built that is still DOT approved and 100% street legal.

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I'll agree, a biased tire by design will build and hold more heat and are rated for less speed but they are still safe and Hwy legal.

 

Point Proven, I guess it just depends on the Tire! and the Driver. because I drive alot!
Lol How many miles can you get out of that tire?
im on my 2nd year with over 50K miles on my SSRs

 

I ran these 34" LTB's to Uwharrie and back from Richmond for an event. No isses and maintained with traffic. The 34" LTBs are the best road handeling bias swamper I've driven.

 

anyone ran these on an 05 and up? or if its even possible. they are skinny enoughit looks like they would. i used to have these on my 91 p/u and i loved them.

 

thats a sweet lookin sidekick man, ive seen lots of the older sammuris that look awsome but that really the first cool lookin sidekick ive see, i like it, sorry to thread jack, just thought i would point that out

 

Thanks guys

The 1-ton is a long term project built Big Block 1976 Caddy 500cid engine.

Before pic ~


Lrgrnr ~ I raced that Sidekick on 31" swampers at the 1st Uwharrie 4xcross event (Racing Rky Mtn Loop ~ WFO 7min ). Placed 7th or 8th in A class (many of the other race trucks were disposable) ~ Local Mud Devils JT beat me in a stockish Sammy on 235's.

I've got a few built 4-dr Sidekicks too... + sammys and a buggy.

Re-Building a crashed 99 Taco brings me here... Frame Swap + 6" lift on 35's with chevy rear leaves.

 

Back on TOpic ~ I've got a set of 6-lug 36" TSL Sx's on the buggy.

Any one running 36's on a first Gen ~ I'm not afraid to trim some skin.

What does it take ot make them fit?

Currently ~ Trailmaster 6" up front and Chevy's in the rear.

 

What did it cost ya to build that little beast?
What are the specs on the lift and whatnot?

 

I'm probally just under $3500 ~~ Not exactly sure.

The 98 2-dr Truck with 89K miles was $1400 (small front end collision) bought from used dealer who repairs auction cars) I bought it before he made the repair.

Radiator support $20 Used
New Radiatior $170
2" coil spacers F&R $80
2" Body lift $100
body mods $free
New top $400
Tires and Wheels off of my other Skidekick
Shrock bumper off my other Sidekick
Fender trim (free) front is trimmed straight forward out of necessity to remove the crash crumpled damaged sheet metal.

I've also added a gear swap to 5.13's (stock Kick 4-dr gears) and changed out the aluminium front diff center section to a Samurai steel unit. Also mods to the idle arm to make it double shear (race prep).

Now it just needs Strut brace / Skid plate / Rear bumper.

 

That aint bad for a decent little trail rig.