1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Supercharger vs. turbocharger

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by toyota for life, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. Oct 12, 2012 at 8:32 AM
    #21
    BIG357

    BIG357 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Member:
    #88741
    Messages:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    MARYLAND
    Vehicle:
    09 TACOMA SR5
    The company name I believe is Evolutionm and I reasearched a bit and found that there are companies that have obtained software from Toyota TSI. I am not sure about this because once he said voids warranty I was not interested. However I know for sure with my air, exhaust and headers being installed by Toyota they are reflahing themselves. It was the only way I could have headers installed and maintain my warranty.
     
  2. Oct 12, 2012 at 8:35 AM
    #22
    BradyT88

    BradyT88 ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2011
    Member:
    #66419
    Messages:
    37,342
    Somewhere Offroad
    Vehicle:
    Mostly Stock '05
    Toyota doesnt mess with the ecu when they add parts, except for supercharger of course.
     
  3. Oct 12, 2012 at 8:45 AM
    #23
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Intentionally obtuse

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    30,325
    Gender:
    Male
    Bodie, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 RC Off-Road 3.5WD
    yes
    This site? I don't see a lot of Toyota love happening on a Mitsubishi enthusiast forum, and I don't see any reflash services offered.

    Going back to the "claims there is a 50-96 hp range" claim. If a simple reflash was all it took for gains like that, why would people bother with a TRD supercharger?
     
  4. Oct 12, 2012 at 8:47 AM
    #24
    BIG357

    BIG357 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Member:
    #88741
    Messages:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    MARYLAND
    Vehicle:
    09 TACOMA SR5
    I purchased magnaflow exhaust with catbacks w/dual exits, K&N air & JBA shorty headers myself pd 1300. for install of all, the headers were like 800. of install. I also had a bull bar put on while I was there and that was another 90.00. I hope I didnt get hosed. The mechanic litterally said had to flash for headers was no additional charge on bill for that.
     
  5. Oct 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM
    #25
    BradyT88

    BradyT88 ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2011
    Member:
    #66419
    Messages:
    37,342
    Somewhere Offroad
    Vehicle:
    Mostly Stock '05
    Yeah, a maf cal is much cheaper than a TRD S/C. Haha.
     
  6. Oct 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM
    #26
    tacomatic1

    tacomatic1 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Member:
    #88789
    Messages:
    4
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Devin
    Palm Coast, FL
    Vehicle:
    98 xcab 2.4L auto, 99 rcab 2.4L 5spd boosted
    Turbocharged, lowered
    From a pure scientific standpoint that is impossible. We are talking a 21-40% increase in power. That means you would have to adjust your fuel maps by that much. In other words, you would be flowing 21-40% more fuel. In order for that to jive with your ecu to maintain stoich AFR (or richer), you would need increased air flow. You cannot get increased air flow in that magnitude without forced induction.
     
  7. Oct 12, 2012 at 8:59 AM
    #27
    BIG357

    BIG357 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Member:
    #88741
    Messages:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    MARYLAND
    Vehicle:
    09 TACOMA SR5
    I guess my question is, did I pay to much for what I had done? I am having a readylift leveling done as we speak and I am paying 250. for install and another 150. to put bilstein shocks/struts front and rear at trick trucks.
     
  8. Oct 12, 2012 at 9:02 AM
    #28
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Intentionally obtuse

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    30,325
    Gender:
    Male
    Bodie, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 RC Off-Road 3.5WD
    yes
    I picked up a link for you while I was down wikipedia way.

    Maybe Toyota is finally breaking out a ram-air intake for the skewp. ;)
     
  9. Oct 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM
    #29
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Intentionally obtuse

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    30,325
    Gender:
    Male
    Bodie, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 RC Off-Road 3.5WD
    yes
    If you don't know how to, or didn't want to install the headers yourself, maybe it was worth $800 in labor to have it done. It wouldn't be for me. I haven't changed manifolds for headers on a Tacoma, but there's quite a bit of room in the engine bay, so it doesn't look to be all that difficult to me.
     
  10. Oct 12, 2012 at 9:29 AM
    #30
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Intentionally obtuse

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    30,325
    Gender:
    Male
    Bodie, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 RC Off-Road 3.5WD
    yes
    Ah, well I can deal with that; maybe BIG357 couldn't. That does add to the complexity of the install and value of the labor charge.
     
  11. Oct 12, 2012 at 9:32 AM
    #31
    BIG357

    BIG357 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Member:
    #88741
    Messages:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    MARYLAND
    Vehicle:
    09 TACOMA SR5
    Yeah, I can tell you guys do DIY alot and I dont have the time or patience anymore, there was a time when I could pull my chevelle of on the side of the road and change rods and rockers with no isuue those days are long gone for me. Sucks. I always drove Ford SUV and never really got into 4 wheeling alot. I got a mountain in WV and a can am atv and now my first Toyota 4x4. I am sure I will be stupid in a lot of the things I do and say but after seeing the things you do to your trucks at least i will get honest information in lieu of the advice I get from someone who just wants to sell me something. And if your ever going to WV 1 hour south of morgantown I have a primitive cabin and a good couple hundred miles of unposted trails. Some Im sure will even give monster trucks like yours a good ride.
     
  12. Oct 12, 2012 at 11:06 AM
    #32
    DoorDing

    DoorDing Intentionally obtuse

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2012
    Member:
    #86445
    Messages:
    30,325
    Gender:
    Male
    Bodie, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 RC Off-Road 3.5WD
    yes
    IMO, there's nothing wrong with having a shop do work for you. It's the same principle as buying new/stock versus going aftermarket. Sometimes, it's nice to just write a check and be done with it. Better still is having the option to go either way, which it sounds like applies to you.

    In the future, I'd suggest getting a few estimates first to see how labor rates stack up in your area. $800 sounds like roughly 8 hrs @ $100/hr, and that seems excessive to me for that work, but I may be wrong about the complexity of the job.
     
  13. May 15, 2014 at 12:28 AM
    #33
    codyjiggs

    codyjiggs New Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2014
    Member:
    #129860
    Messages:
    1
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    San Angelo
    Vehicle:
    14 TSS sport Edition
    okay so coming off topic maybe. what horse power gains has anyone got from a TURBOCHARGER and/or SUPERCHARGER. im driving a 2014 tacoma TSS and im wanting to install a turbocharger, the reason is, that i drove a duramax for along time and i love the turbo chargers the lag its like the engine wakes up and i love the sound and power from of it. so i guess does anybody have any dyno charts from either charger?
     
  14. May 15, 2014 at 12:37 AM
    #34
    Konaborne

    Konaborne Pineapples on pizza Hawaiian does not it make.

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Member:
    #46536
    Messages:
    31,651
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Cody
    Kealakekua, Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    Lifted 00 TRD Off-Road
    fox extended travel remote resivoir coilovers, 14" eibach 600lb coils, All Pro tubular chromoly 1" uniball upper control arms, All Pro expedition leaf packs, 10" bilstein 5150 piggyback reservoir shocks 265/75r16 Goodyear wrangler MT/R kevlars wrapped around 16" Helo 791 gloss black, Mini H1 retrofits with 6000k bulbs, 18" magnaflow w/custom exhaust reroute various decals, Sockmonkey retro hood stripes
    turbo's are a hell of a lot more than plug and chug though, and every turbo setup will give you different specs
     
  15. May 15, 2014 at 12:52 AM
    #35
    95 taco

    95 taco Battle Born

    Joined:
    May 3, 2012
    Member:
    #78175
    Messages:
    12,367
    Vehicle:
    2003 4x4 TRD SR5 auto
    OME 883 front, OMD 3.5" rear, Relentless front bumper, smittybilt 9.5K winch
    There's absolutely nothing like the sound of a turbo, our F-250 has a 4'' exhaust and a few tweaks done and the sound is just perfect, the roar when you get on it, the turbo whine when the A/C kicks on and when it's warming up.
     
  16. May 15, 2014 at 1:00 AM
    #36
    TheMuffinMan

    TheMuffinMan Banana Nut

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2013
    Member:
    #118280
    Messages:
    1,923
    Gender:
    Male
    Pueblo, Colorado, USA
    Vehicle:
    '14 SR5 AC 4x4 6Spd
    The higher boost pressures in a turbo system will probably give you head gasket issues in the 1-GRFE. As it is with the TRD supercharger which is 6-8psi if I remember correctly the head gaskets last about 100,000 miles before needing to be replaced.
     
To Top