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Suspension Advice - 5100 with All Pro AAL not cutting it

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 05ImpulseTaco, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. Jun 13, 2011 at 7:20 PM
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    05ImpulseTaco

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    I recently installed the 5100's all around at 2.5" with the 1.5 all pro leaf in the rear. It sat basically level and I'm pretty happy with the ride. I added an ARE CX cap on the back and it didn't really change anything much. Still sits basically level. About 1x or 2x a week I go whitewater kayaking and load up 3 buddies and their boats. I've noticed I'm constantly hitting the bump stops even over the smallest bumps.

    So check my math:

    Cap: 200lbs
    4 riders: 600-700lbs
    boats: 150-200lbs

    So I'm calculating roughly 950 to 1100lbs to bottom out the suspension? Does that seem normal?? Last question is what should my next suspension mod be? I was thinking maybe add another leaf in the pack to help or going with some expedition springs. My problem is most expedition springs I've seen lift 3-4 inches and I don't want the back of my truck all jacked up when I don't have other passengers. Let me know what you think. If you made it this far in the post I appreciate you reading the whole thing!!!!!
     
  2. Jun 14, 2011 at 4:58 AM
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    If you like your hight and ride quality, just get some different bumpstops. Allpro and Wheelers sell different types.
     
  3. Jun 14, 2011 at 5:16 AM
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    98tacoma27

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    Pull the AP AAL out and replace it with this from Wheelers
     
  4. Jun 14, 2011 at 5:18 AM
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    And keep the factory overload leaf also.
     
  5. Jun 14, 2011 at 5:19 AM
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    Work in progress, but installed so far; 265/70/17 Duratracs, Spidertrax, OME885X coils with OME lean spacer, OME N140S and N182 shocks, Wheeler's 1.5" 3 Leaf Progressive AAL (kept the overload), LR UCAs. TP14 spacers
    x2. Running their 3-leaf and love the ride! Don't do much hauling with it though. I'll defer to others on how it handles loads.
     
  6. Jun 14, 2011 at 5:30 AM
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    It handles pretty good when loaded down. I kept the factory overload in there though. So far I've towed several times with it and it seemed to be a nice smooth ride. For comparison, I've got a TSB pack, the Icon 3-leaf AAL (similar to Wheeler's) with the factory overload still installed and 5100's in the rear and 5100's at 0 up front with Eibach coils. I have about a factory rake when unloaded (unloaded to me means an ARE MX shell, 3/4" plywood platform and some tools in the bed) and sat just about level, maybe a tiny bit of rake left with a 4,000 lb trailer attached.
     
  7. Jun 14, 2011 at 10:21 AM
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    I didnt use the overload leaf when i had that leaf pack. I wanted it for smoothness and it did great! the only hauling i did with it was my honda 400ex, so not much weight there.


    look into firestone airbag kits.
     
  8. Jun 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM
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    Timbrens are always and option
     
  9. Jun 14, 2011 at 11:04 AM
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    I would suggest the timbern bumpstops for your setup.

    There is no point in ditching our AAL for wheelers 3 leaf progressive as theres and ours come from the same manufacturer. A proper bumpstop setup will help your problem with the added weight.

    Jason
     
  10. Jun 15, 2011 at 4:15 AM
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    I think I might add the factory overload into the setup too. I'd like it to be a little higher in the back and prefer it didn't hit the bump stops at all. Do you think that would do it?
     
  11. Jun 15, 2011 at 5:20 AM
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    x2, the only height you'll gain is the thickness of the leaf but it does keep it off the bump stops. The factory overload is 1/2" thick.
     
  12. Jun 15, 2011 at 5:48 AM
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    i'd put it back in, its free so why not?
     
  13. Jun 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM
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    That's what I'm thinking. Thanks for the advice.
     
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