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Suspension difference on the Limited and TRD

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Master_Yota, May 5, 2015.

  1. May 5, 2015 at 9:53 PM
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    Master_Yota

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    Can someone explain the main differences in suspension/shocks if any in the current and possibly 2016 Limited and TRD Tacomas. Since I have a TRD limited truck I am a little confused on the configurations on the Tacoma.
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  2. May 6, 2015 at 7:05 AM
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    We don't know all the details on the 2016 models yet. But the 2nd gen Limited has the same suspension as an SR5. TRD Sport > Limited, unless you like the 18 chrome hub caps.
     
  3. May 6, 2015 at 8:23 AM
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    Those are the mounts for the shackles....they differ then your 1st gen Tacoma. On the 2nd gen they mount from the bottom (3rd gen will be the same) as where the 1st gen its from the top.
     
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    Disc brakes on that rear suspension on 2016?
     
  5. May 6, 2015 at 7:04 PM
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    I figured there was no info on the 2016 yet and just figured they will do the same as the 2nd Gen. This is probably a dumb question but are the suspension/shocks on the 2nd Gen Tacoma supposed to give you a better ride on road than off road? And better off road than on road with TRD suspension. Anyone have experience with both and really notice a difference with on road driving? Thanks in advance.
     
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    not 100% sure but i think its still drum brakes in 2016
     
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    Drums on the back, 100% and shown in other pics.
     
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    If no one here has actual experience with how the Tacoma rides on normal street driving with TRD and non TRD suspension, how about just some thoughts on the matter. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Not sure exactly what you call it, but would anyone know why toyota went with opposing rear shocks on new tacoma? Pros & cons???

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    neegdogdig

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    A buddy have an 07 2nd gen off road model
    the rear leaf springs are weak and made lots of weirdo noises sound like fucking on the cheap mattress. On the sr5 and sport models are built with stronger and better leaf springs I haven't seen a limited models on 2nd gen dont know if there is anys and not sure 'bout 2016 tacos need to check them out sometimes
     
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  11. May 8, 2015 at 6:14 PM
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    No offense but what does it matter what I currently drive. I am basically asking based on the 2nd Gen Toyota what people think of the feel of driving on streets between the TRD off-road suspension which is beefed up and the other non beefed up suspension models.
     
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    I guess he was saying the difference between two Tacomas might not be the same difference that you see in two Tundras. That being said...

    I've driven all the trim variations only a few months ago, while shopping for my Tacoma. The non-TRD Tacos feel very "work truck" like. They tend to feel jagged on any road. The TRD Sport has the same suspension setup as the TRD Offroad, except for the sway-bar. The Sport has a stiffer sway-bar which aids to a more stable vehicle when driving on road, but uneven terrain will throw you side to side. The TRD Offroad have a softer sway bar that allows for more suspension articulation, off road, but also gives a slightly softer ride when driving on road.

    I bought the Sport, removed the sway_bar, and have a great ride with a side of mild body roll around corners :D

    Hope this helps.
     
  13. May 8, 2015 at 11:01 PM
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    Thanks that was more what I was looking for. Do you know if the Limited has the same non TRD suspension as say the SR5?
     
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    Limited/sr5 have the same suspension

    TRD models have the same suspension.

    Having owned both, I do like the sr5 suspension better on my Limited. It is a little softer.

    That being said, I lifted both trucks like most forum members do so the stock suspension is irrelevant.
     
  15. May 9, 2015 at 12:20 PM
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    the extra softness you felt between the SR5 and limited is likely due to the bigger sidewall on the tires of the SR5 vs the 18in rims on the limited.


    Also, SR5 / Limited / TRD SPORT use the same front linear springs.

    TRD Offroad uses a progressive spring from the factory.
     
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    Thread revive.

    Just curious. The Sport has sport tuned suspension but it's not the same as TRD OR, SR5, Limited.

    Does it come with a variable coil rate in the front or is it just the shocks that they swap out?? Different leaf Springs in the back??
     
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    The staggered arrangement is not new but the main advantage is more planes to cancel out motion.

    Shock absorbers can only cancel motion that is parallel to their direction of compression. If you look at the axle from a side view, staggered shock arrangement would form a V, where as if they were both behind or in front you'd get a \. In the same-side-parallel arrangement it is possible to have motion that is a right angle to the shocks direction of compression and thus cannot be damped. That isn't possible with the V arrangement, anything that is orthogonal to one shock won't be to the other. Since they're connected by a solid axle as long as one shock can work it will eventually damp the whole system.

    Usually it isn't a huge difference though because the suspension is mostly restricted to only vertical motion. It does start to matter when you get wheel hop under hard acceleration. I don't know that there are any disadvantages.
     
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    The offset shocks should match the torque of the drive shaft under forward acceleration
     
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    Any particular reason to mount the shackles top or bottom? I suppose they don't have to reinforce the C channel frame there if the shackle mounts on the bottom. Recent photos of the Hilux show the shackle still mounting directly to the frame (similar to 1st gen Tacoma).

    What's interesting is the new(er) arrangement looks similar to how domestics have been doing rear suspension for years. I've been looking at early bronco's (70s vintage) and it looks similar, except for the 9" rear.

    Here's the back of a Hilux, for comparison & because I like to look at mechanical bits. :)

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    The Hilux has a far better frame and leaf springs. Why am I not surprised.
     

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