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swapping rear 3rd member difficulty.

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by SilverSeven, Oct 16, 2009.

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  1. Oct 16, 2009 at 7:14 AM
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    how hard is it to swap out the 3rd?
     
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  2. Oct 16, 2009 at 7:15 AM
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    Not hard. Welll....not THAT hard. Maybe a 3 on the 10 scale of difficulty.
     
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  3. Oct 16, 2009 at 7:17 AM
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    ok say there was this really retarted guy and lets say he wanted to change out his 3rd member. pretend he had a socket set and 10 fingers. Do you thing this "hypothetical" retarded guy could manage?
     
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  4. Oct 16, 2009 at 7:19 AM
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    Are we talking "Wear a helmet" retarded, or the occasional paste eater?
     
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  5. Oct 16, 2009 at 7:20 AM
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    hmm, lets go with frequent paste eating and occasional window licking
     
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  6. Oct 16, 2009 at 7:21 AM
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    Im gonna say its "Medium" difficulty then. Depending on the frequency of paste eating and licking of windows.
     
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  7. Oct 16, 2009 at 7:26 AM
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    k so who wants to help me? i will feed you beer and steaks
     
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  8. Oct 16, 2009 at 7:30 AM
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    Keep in mind....its a good idea to have the beer AFTER the swap...the addition of beer during an install/swap multiplies the difficulty exponentialy.
     
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  9. Oct 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM
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    Are you talking whole rear end or just center section(pig)? I believe manual states brakes to be removed to get axles out to remove center section.....:(

    A bit of work although if you're reasonably decent with wrenches and take one step at a time, not too bad.

    Beer and Pizza after though......:cool:

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  10. May 28, 2010 at 8:19 PM
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    do i need to take the drum off to get the axles out? remove the brake line from the drum? take the axle out completely???
     
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  11. May 28, 2010 at 8:30 PM
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    In theory you dont need to take drum off but it is better to remove weight so your seal does not get damage , you dont need to take axle completely out just a inch and half out so you may have to loosen mounts on brake lines to get more slack
     
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  12. May 29, 2010 at 6:50 AM
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    If my memory serves me correctly the design requires the brake shoe assembly to be removed to allow clearance for axle to be removed. So yes the drum needs to be removed 1st, then brake assembly and lastly the axle, at least far enough to get pig out, as BlueT mentioned.

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  13. May 31, 2010 at 5:09 PM
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    okay so i spent all day trying to get the drum brakes off finding out that i dont even need to take them off to get the axle. boy what a waste of time. well after i got the axle pulled took about 45 minutes to put the new 3rd member back in and tires back on. day well spent... :
     
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  14. May 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM
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    Taco man,
    Sorry if I led you astray although 05-06 SM states in order to remove Differential you need to remove Drums & Brake assemblies....What's your secret on getting the axles out w/o doing the whole dis-assembly?? I'm working on 2WD 5 lugger, are you doing the same?

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  15. May 31, 2010 at 5:39 PM
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    no i was on a 6 lug. i just undid the 4 bolts on the hub assembly and pulled the axle straight out.
     
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  16. May 31, 2010 at 5:57 PM
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    Ordinarily I have no trouble keeping up with acronyms and idioms, but can someone tell me what exactly is a "3rd member"? I have seen this in many posts but I haven't been able to figure out what it is from the context. Thanks in advance.
     
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  17. May 31, 2010 at 5:59 PM
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    That's great tip, I double checked the SM and even a w/ 6 lug, they call for brake drum & assembly removal so you saved yourself a lot of time. Any issues with the o-rings between the flange & housing? You still had to bleed brakes, right?

    Beers on me!:cheers:

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  18. May 31, 2010 at 6:00 PM
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    The part of the diff that connects the drive shaft to the axles.

    edit: disregard the arrow.

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  19. May 31, 2010 at 8:25 PM
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    no i didnt have to bleed the brakes. i just undid the 4 nuts that are on the back side of the drum. i also undid the abs 10mm bolt that is right next to the 4 nuts. unscrew the brake lines clips from the outside of the axle the pull your axle out a few inches then undo the third member and yank the bioch out and there you go!
     
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  20. May 31, 2010 at 9:44 PM
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    So you got truetrac :) ??
     
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