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Swisha Loop 2018

Discussion in 'Ontario, Canada' started by tacoma16, Sep 24, 2017.

  1. Jul 5, 2018 at 8:20 PM
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    Chux

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    I bought a pre filter for our Swisha trip..

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  2. Jul 5, 2018 at 8:39 PM
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    Surprised the size of the stones that picked up.
     
  3. Jul 5, 2018 at 8:52 PM
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    Most likely a sand ball. While driving I can actually peer over and look into the pre filter and see the vortex spinning, with some wet weather/puddles, and dust it creates balls similar to rolling snow to make a snowman.
     
  4. Jul 5, 2018 at 8:53 PM
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    Interesting. I have the enginaire pre filter and it’s suppose to eject it. I haven’t taken it apart to empty it or clean it but filter inspections pass.
     
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  5. Jul 6, 2018 at 6:55 AM
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    They do work good but in my mind it’s one more moving part that can fail. Not a deal breaker by any means in the situation as it not catastrophic, it just means you don’t have a precleaner anymore. Also our wood chipper has an enginaire precleaner on it and it seems like they fail every 3 years or so, but that’s on a machine that’s at wide open throttle everyday. Not the case with a pickup truck so it will probably last much much longer. I prefer the bowl style myself for the simplicity and I just check it when I’m on a trip and do my morning walk around. @Chux pics are after a few days so it’s not like it fills up fast.

    *not trying to force anything on anyone just passing along personal experience ;)
     
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  6. Jul 6, 2018 at 7:02 AM
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    Lol all good man. Appreciate the experience. I have heard pros and cons on both (internet research so who knows) and went with the enginaire.

    As long as it works for now. Can always try one down the way
     
  7. Jul 6, 2018 at 8:59 AM
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    Since I am not in the 'cool' club yet, I am just going to clean my k&n filter this weekend, re-oil that biatch and call it good....

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  8. Jul 6, 2018 at 9:46 AM
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    I’ll have an extra worst case.
     
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    not 100% sure on how Peter's works but I know mine is no moving parts its just blades inside oriented in a way to spin the air then an ejection port. So not really sure where they would fail besides the ejection port being clogged.



    Just saying if anyone is looking for a precleaner I have one I'm looking to sell lol. Its not self cleaning and it has a 3" inlet, so you might need to run an adaptor like @tacoma16 does.
     
  10. Jul 6, 2018 at 9:49 AM
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    I think my pre cleaner is 4” and I had to run an adapter to 3”. Or it’s the other way around. I have to much shit on the go to remember lol.
     
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  11. Jul 6, 2018 at 9:51 AM
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    Oil filters are not actually good for your MAF.

    AND interestingly I've seen many arguments against high flow filters like those etc for off road.
    In a performance aspect yes they are great more air = better performance BUT higher air flow means less filtering and given we are in dusty environments that means that you could be allowing more dust into the engine than a normal air filter that filters more and has less air flow.

    Sure on a race track and clean streets they're better but off road everything I've read is against them and nothing for them.


    I was going to switch to a higher flow one then thought about this a bit more and ya definitely not a good idea to me.
    If enough dust gets in, it can start to clog the intake, or worse start etching away at seals around the pistons etc.
     
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  12. Jul 6, 2018 at 9:52 AM
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    from what I remember seeing you're reducing to the snorkel not the precleaner.

    @Taco-Can if you're still interested in one I still have it, Eric didn't take it since it didn't fit his snorkel.
     
  13. Jul 6, 2018 at 9:59 AM
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    Heard the same thing but rhonny Dahl’s running one. He just cleans it out during the trips. Mind you he is also leading where the other guys are literally left in the dust.

    Goes from 4” at the precleaner to 3” at the snorke head.
     
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  14. Jul 6, 2018 at 10:07 AM
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    Ya saw that, but yep he leads so what does it matter lol its everyone else getting all the dust.
    Poor Wayne and Torbs, think it was the annebedell highway they just did where they showed it and ronnys was fine but everyone else was coated in thick layer of dust.

    Personally rather just not risk it in case you aren't leading, not worth the issues down the line. And really the performance difference isn't even noticeable usually so whats the point taking the risk for next to no gain?


    and after all the issues I had with an oil filter on my Jetta fuck that, not running them again. If I go high flow its AEM since they're oil free.
     
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    Well I duno sheet, I bought it cuz it was re-usable.

    :facepalm:

    I just now purchased OEM filter on Amazon, non oil. $35 for a brand new non-oil fitler, $20 to reuse the oil one that will not help me.

    No more using the K&N oil one.

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    The spinning blade is the part I’m talking about. Eventually as they get dirty and worn they stop spinning. Once they stop spinning they stop ejecting and once they stop ejecting it’s useless. But like I said my only experiance with them failing is on a chipper that runs wide open in super dusty conditions for hours at a clip almost every day. I’m sure under normal driving conditions that a Tacoma sees it will last much much much longer before anything happens.
     
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    Hm guess depends on the make. I've opened mine there are no moving parts at all.
     
  18. Jul 6, 2018 at 3:14 PM
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    Sorry I missunderstood you. I think I get what your saying now. There are fins inside so as the air gets sucked in it makes like a vortex throwing the heavier than air objects ( dust) out the port in the side.

    Idk if it’s a different model or older style but the one on the chipper is an enginair and there is a paddle inside on bearings/bushings. As the air gets sucked in that paddle spins slapping/blowing the debris out the port. If it were up to me id replace it with a bowl style precleaner but the fleet manager will only buy exactly what it came with so...
     
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  19. Jul 6, 2018 at 3:31 PM
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    I'd bet Dyson would design a kick ass module for this...I swear they've got the illegitimate offspring of Venturi and Bernoulli engineering their stuff.

    Sorry, carry on :D
     
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    How in the world did it get those rocks? That's pretty amazing how much crap it caught.
     

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