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Swisha Loop 2018

Discussion in 'Ontario, Canada' started by tacoma16, Sep 24, 2017.

  1. Feb 26, 2020 at 7:46 AM
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    I used some Unidens from Canadian Tire on 50% off sale, many of the other guys used Cobra two-ways.

    Those unidens still work perfect for me, they have a 'boost' transmit button that seems to work very good. Never had a problem going out of range while wheeling with buddies.
     
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  2. Feb 26, 2020 at 10:26 AM
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    as @llamasmurf mentioned

    General sensus is that most of our group runs the Cobra ACXT645;
    https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01CTUIUFK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_AlHrEbNZMKS87

    But there are some of us that run Motorolas like myself with the T402 or the cheaper T280 (myself and i think 1 or 2 others);
    https://www.amazon.ca/Motorola-Talkabout-T400-Rechargeable-Two-Way/dp/B00W75BLVS

    those Unidens GMR40602CKHSs that LLama posted look quite nice;
    https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...c-0698044p.0698044.html?gclsrc=aw.ds#store=72


    but honestly, as long as it can charge over USB, most 2ways are pretty decent now a days
     
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  3. Feb 26, 2020 at 4:12 PM
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    Thank you guys for the info!

    if I may ask another question. It was mentioned that it would be nice to have a GPS unit that could help pinpoint my location. How accurate does it need to be, and do you guys have any recommendations?
     
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  4. Feb 26, 2020 at 5:23 PM
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  5. Feb 26, 2020 at 5:29 PM
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    I have less experience that the other guys, but i would like to believe most GPS trackers are more than accurate enough now a days. As long as it has a solid connection, you can't be all too far off if you're following a trail/ start at a trail head.

    If you find yourself if a spiderweb- like network, then having a slightly more accurate GPS could help, but i can't imagine i'd be mandatory if you can extrapolate data.

    Granted, the above is all for if you are tracking yourself and planning on using it to get out by means of backtracking.

    If you're looking for trail maps, not too knowledgeable on that, but I've used Gaia GPS with good results.
    Before that i used google map's satellite mode to find where i am on a trail as there is generally enough detail to make out a trail in the forest.


    cheapest option is to run a free app like Gaia on your phone. if you're finding that it's missing some features you would like, the phone now becomes a baseline. where you have basic information and from there you can look at features some GPS systems might have that you'd like to display for yourself. Lets say you need your phone to make a call but you found you accidently killed the app, you can look into getting a tablet that has GPS functionality and continue to run the free app (I believe @ODSC1 does this when i trail ran with him and a buddy of ours last year). If the app is lacking features, you can look at the paid version of it and see if it's worth getting. Or look into something like the Garmin overlander and work your way backwards crossing off features you need vs features you want.

    offloading isn't about breaking the bank on fancy electronic gadgets, it's about going out and enjoying the trails and doing some camping.
     
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  6. Feb 27, 2020 at 3:00 AM
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    Sorry, this is probably an ignorant question, but can you charge these with a USB cable? I don’t see in the description that it does. Is there a port in the bottom where is slides into the charging station that is compatible with a phone charger?
     
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  7. Feb 27, 2020 at 9:57 AM
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    yes you can, that's how I charge mine.
     
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  8. Feb 27, 2020 at 12:14 PM
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    @Shveet is correct on the Gaia GPS, I have the premium subscription to it. My navigator(wife) loves it. She can use it on her phone, or take out her tablet and get a bigger view.

    You can import any gpx file into it and get others tracks. It is very nice imo.

    The GPS accuracy is dependent on your device, some phones and tablets dont talk to a lot of GPS satellites at once. The more satellites your device queries and talks to the better for accuracy is my understanding. I might be wrong on this :cookiemonster:
     
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  9. Feb 27, 2020 at 1:47 PM
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    cracks open my civil notes for GIS and GPS systems from back in the day

    YOU'RE GONNA LEARN TODAY (i'll probably break off into multiple tangents here so wikipedia all that you want to know).

    Yes, you are correct. The more satellites (that is part of the GNSS-Global Navigation Satellite System and also depending on your constellation; GPS-NorthAmerica, GLONASS-Russia GALILEO-Europe, COMPASS-china, IRNSS-india i think, etc.) that your device can both visually see and can manage, the more "accurate" it will be to locate your exact position. Most GPS- NorthAmerica systems actually are fairly accurate to about 0.5m to 2 meters with 3-4 satellites like with the use of your phone. But lets say if you use a proper GPS locator, that is used by surveyors, on a nice and clear day - we're talking about being within centimeters).

    HOWEVER in theory, you need at least three visible GPS satellites to be able to provide all the data you need to calculate a reasonably accurate location. In practice, signals must be received from a minimum of four GPS satellites in order to correct for errors: the more the better. Modern GNSS receivers have enough "tracking channels" to follow many satellites at once, and can typically do so across multiple GNSS providers. but generally we're connected to around 6 at any given time. :spy: elevation

    ADDITIONALLY, depending on the year your phone is made, make, and model, 9 times out of 10 it will have the ability to view all of if not most of the GNSS's 'visual' bands; GPS, GLONASS, GALILEO, etc etc.
    This matters because at least for GPS's constellation, which is again meant for North America, float around the world, you might be able to get a reading in EU but the reading might not be accurate. but having access to GLONASS or Galielo, the phone might automatically or you'd need to manually switch 'providers' to look for the stronger constellation and tell you where you are more accurately.

    As some more info on GPS (North America) and there are only around 23-24 satellites available, something like 5 of which are flying in reserved and not in use, only if one of the other satellites go down that it will turn on and continue the work of the downed unit.

    But if your phone only has GPS, it may not actually work if you head to the EU or Russia or get an inaccurate readying that's out by 20-50 meters. @Norilsk can probably confirm his USSR made GPS stopped working when he landed on Canadian soil.

    Understand that when you go and "buy" a GPS unit, you are actually just buying a set of maps and some navigation tools. the more money you drop, you tend to get better maps that may include hiking, ATV, Offroading, etc trails and the land base you're given might show topographical contour maps or full 3d world TIN. But Gaia is more than enough for what we do.

    I used to do A LOT of geocaching
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    TLDR: 9 times out of 10, your phone is good enough. no need to drop $1000 on a GPS unit unless you are planning on doing global overlanding.
    Or if you don't want to read the above text just grab this for $400 CAD or get this little guy for $350 for emergencies as it is basically a GPS unit and a SAT phone.
     
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  10. Feb 27, 2020 at 5:39 PM
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    TLDR: yes to whatever he said
     
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  11. Jun 28, 2020 at 1:46 PM
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    Anyone here got the location of the big washout, curious as to where on the loop it is. TIA
     
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  12. Jun 28, 2020 at 3:18 PM
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    Hang tight...someone will definitely answer
     
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  13. Jun 28, 2020 at 3:24 PM
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    Never mind, reread thread and found Eugenes map showing it.
     

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