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Taco lean and Dakar springs

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Crgrey42, Feb 23, 2017.

  1. Feb 23, 2017 at 7:58 AM
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    Crgrey42

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    My 03 leans really bad to the drivers size in the rear. I have the spacer in the front to level and all looks good. I read somewhere a while back that Dakar springs are side specific on 1st gens. Can anyone confirm?
     
  2. Feb 23, 2017 at 8:00 AM
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    I am second gen, but I lean too on the driver side rear. I prob will leave it as is, but if I ever take the springs off, I will at least swap sides to see if it fixes it. I don't know about the side specific thing...never heard of it. Could always put a shim under the drivers side springs.
     
  3. Feb 23, 2017 at 8:01 AM
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    That was my thought, maybe switch springs and see if it is any different. I know there is alot more weight on the drivers side, but I feel like there has to be a fix for the lean.
     
  4. Feb 23, 2017 at 8:12 AM
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    They are side specific, I just bought them and you can tell the driver side spring has more arch to them.
     
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    I will def. switch them over when I do my gear swap in the spring. Thanks for the tip
     
  6. Feb 23, 2017 at 8:20 AM
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    There should be a +, - or 0 on each spring, toward the front of the spring I believe. Sometimes you don't always get a matched pair. At any rate (pun intended), the + spring should go on the driver's side, as it is slightly over the specified spring rate. The other one should go on the passenger side. If you got two + springs, I could see why that would cause a lean.
     
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  7. Feb 23, 2017 at 8:23 AM
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    Ya, you have A and B springs. A goes on driver side. The + is for the direction the spring faces(forward).
     
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    the + is the spring rate

    the leaf packs only go in one way, the install instructions should mention this. the part with the spring "wrapped" around the bushing is the front
     
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    Correct. The +, -, and 0 refer to over spec, under spec, and at spec spring rate.
    You want the over spec spring on the drivers side to help with the lean.
     
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    Yes, A & B, will say after 50K miles on my Dakars, the lean has come back.
     
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    I'm confused, I had the OME with Dakar leafs installed yesterday. My leafs are correct by the part #, A is driver side and B is passenger side. But, the pass side has a + on it and the driver side has a O on it and it seems to have a slight lean to the left... What do you think?
     
  12. Feb 24, 2017 at 9:10 AM
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    That our only choice is to switch them. *sigh*
     
  13. Feb 24, 2017 at 10:22 AM
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    Yeah A and B don't mean anything. The springs are dimensionally identical, they only vary slightly in spring rate as denoted by the +, - etc.
    Switch em.
     
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    Not enough to have a build thread.
    A and B identify which one is slightly stiffer (A) and should go on the driver side to compensate for driver and fuel tank weight
     
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    No.

    The A and B are part of the part number. The spring rate is indicated by the +, -, and/or 0 on the spring.
    You will always get one "A" and one "B" spring (or at least you should). What their relative stiffness is has nothing to do with the part number.

    You know what, screw it. Put them on whatever side of the truck you want. Then in six months start another thread asking why your shit is leaning like a drunken sailor.
     
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    I called ARB and asked them about the difference in A,B and + 0 -, they repeated word for word what drr stated. I will be switching them and hopefully living happily ever after!
    Thank you drr for your insight!
     
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    Looks like I'm switching them around this weekend. Thanks for the input everyone, specially @drr and @Dad'struck for further clarifying this.

    I also went with A for driver and B for passenger based on previous research. Will make sure the "+" leaf pack is on the driver's side this time around.
     
  19. Feb 24, 2017 at 2:27 PM
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    I'll have to search for my instructions but, yes, normally A is driver and B is passenger. However there may be a stipulation that if there is a higher rate on one put that on driver's side. Otherwise contact who you bought it from and let them know. This will help them in the future to clarify or make sure the springs designated for the driver's side are a higher rate.
     
  20. Feb 24, 2017 at 2:44 PM
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    @YotaDan @ToyTec Lifts can you guys clarify? A = driver's side, B = passenger? Or go with + on driver's side and -/0 on passenger?

    I bought mine from Wheelers (spoke to them about this a while ago) and I think you posted the Toytec installation instructions earlier in this thread. I believe both state that A is driver's, B is passenger side. That's how I have them setup but I'm still going to try the + on drivers, -/0 on pass to see if it makes a difference.

    In fact, has anyone actually swapped them from left to right? B on the driver's side, and A on the pass? Maybe A means driver's side for a rhd truck...lol???
     

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