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Taco Lean Question

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by jmonteil, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Jun 13, 2019 at 12:26 PM
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    jmonteil

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    [EDIT] I realized the right move here is to just lift the front more. I want some stronger springs, now just need to decide between Eibach, 883, or 882. Leaning more towards 883 and Eibach. How come so many suggest against 883 without bumpers but people rock Eibach all the time, and they are weighted even heavier?? After seeing these 881 sag so much so fast, im really hesitant to go 882, in case i get a bumper soon.

    I have the expected Taco lean and am curious on the established solution of adding a spacer to the left front.

    In the pictures of my truck you can see that the right rear is where it's the highest. Will the spacer on left front bring that rear corner down, or simply raise the drivers side?

    I currently have 881 with 3/8" top plate, and progressive AAL with overload still in. It gave me so much lift in the rear with too much rake, which looks to be subsiding a bit after some wheeling and road tripping. Just want to level her out some.

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  2. Jun 13, 2019 at 12:47 PM
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    When I installed my 881s, 5100s and new leaf packs i ordered the 3/8" spacer from Wheelers. Not sure why they just don't call it a 1/4" spacer because in the description it states it gives you 1/4" increase...

    Either way, yes, it leveled out the vehicle nicely.
     
  3. Jun 13, 2019 at 12:55 PM
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    I already have the 3/8" spacers installed. I could replace drivers side with a 1/2" to level it out. Which comes out to about 3mm increase. Would I need more? I could stack a 1/4" on top of the current 3/8" for more like 5mm lift.
     
  4. Jun 13, 2019 at 1:02 PM
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    Orrrrr I just get 882 :)
     
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    What kind of shocks do you have up front? If they're 5100s are you sure that the passenger side one is set to the same settings as the drivers side?

    That much lean with the correcting spacer installed is definitely not normal
     
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    So, your side pics don't really give a good idea of the "taco lean", which is left to right, not front to back...

    The leafs should wear down a bit - take it off road and give her some flex, she'll settle down.

    But don't stack spacers. You could have different length spacers on each side maybe, but don't add multiple spacers on one side.

    From what I've seen, most people end up with a 5mm spacer on the driver side front to counteract all the weight from the driver and fuel tank being on that side.
     
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  7. Jun 13, 2019 at 1:11 PM
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    The shocks came pre assembled by Wheelers. I dont have a "correcting spacer" installed. I have spacers installed on both shocks.
     
  8. Jun 13, 2019 at 1:13 PM
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    You have the 3/8" spacer on both sides? I would remove it off the passenger side then. That should help
     
  9. Jun 13, 2019 at 1:13 PM
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    Yeah the pics I took from the rear didnt show the lean very well, but its noticeable IRL (passenger side high.) I wanted to show the rear passenger side wheel gap being much more than the driver side in the pics.

    Good to know about stacking spacers. Thanks! Maybe I can keep the 3/8" on the passenger side, and replace the driver side with a 1/2" then.
     
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    But what about my lift?! haha
     
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    That could work also, the idea for correcting taco lean is that the driver's side is lifted slightly higher...either with small spacers or by adjusting the coilovers to compensate for the lean (if you have adjustable ones). In your case you want to do it with spacers.
     
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    3/8" is hardly noticeable lift-wise, but yeah you will lose a bit...if you don't want that to happen then your idea of putting a slightly larger spacer on the driver's side will also work.
     
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    Yeah, so that kind fo brings me back to my original question. Will that cause the wheel gap to shrink in the right rear?
     
  14. Jun 13, 2019 at 1:16 PM
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    Like a corner to corner see-saw is how I'm picturing it in my head, but not sure that how it works with suspension.
     
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    Yes, when you adjust for the lean on the left (both front and rear) it is corrected by lifting the front up a bit, which also effects the rear. I had the same issue recently, except it was more my driver's side rear that was sagging. By cranking up my front driver coilover another 1/4" or so, it corrected the rear lean too.

    If for some reason it doesn't they do make small spacers for the rear as well but its not common to have to do that.
     
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    Sounds good! I'll scoop up a 1/2" spacer and give it a shot. Appreciate the help
     
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    I couldn't believe how much lift the 1/5" AAL gave me. Was very unexpected to have this much rake. It has made me contemplate just going with 882 to even everything out more accurately. But 1/2" spacer is a much cheaper solution in the meantime.
     
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    Leaf springs will settle, they always do. Happens faster if you flex them out a lot and/or carry some weight around for awhile. If not, a common way to bring them down is to remove the overload spring, but if you plan on carrying heavy-ish loads then you might not want to do that.
     
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    Yeah I left the overload in thinking I was going to squeeze out as much lift as possible from the advertised 1.5 inches. Now i just don't want to take them out and have it be too low.

    It's a myth that overload spring makes it ride stiffer right??
     
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    Well just look at how the overload spring is shaped. It's essentially flat so it doesn't make contact with the rest of the leaves until they are flat (loaded), too.

    I mean, there's *some* contact so I guess you could argue that it does "technically" affect the stiffness, but I doubt it's noticeable especially in the first part of the travel.

    As Ryan said, the leaves will settle. I'd wait for them to settle before doing anything drastic with your front, aside from maybe changing the spacers. If you notice the rear has stopped settling, and it's still high, 882s would be a good bet,
     

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