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Taco PRO Owners: Interested in a spring upgrade for front?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Ryan at Eibach, Dec 17, 2019.

  1. Oct 21, 2020 at 3:26 PM
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    TenBeers

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    Yeah.
    So @mark@eibach, if one has a steel bumper and winch, what do you think that would do to the front lift amount?
     
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  2. Oct 21, 2020 at 3:45 PM
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    I am assuming your measuring sessions don't include a truck with armor, bumpers, etc. Is the lift you're seeing just a byproduct of using a stock truck without said armor, bumpers, etc? My understanding is that the goal of these coils is to offset any weight that's been added and essentially get the truck back to it's original ride height so the shock performs as originally designed with respect to the various zones and travel. That's what I'm hoping they do. Assuming they do, I also assume the 1" AAL essentially serve the same function, that is to offset the additional weight so the rear coilovers perform as designed.

    Can you confirm I'm on the right track with respect to the intent of these coils?

    Thanks for the updates you've been providing, can't wait to see the new coils.
     
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  3. Oct 21, 2020 at 3:51 PM
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    Tacoma: mid-travel on 33s LC: 3.5” lift on 35s
    lol, you beat me to it!
     
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  4. Oct 21, 2020 at 4:13 PM
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    Haven't heard a single issue with the Wescott kit. Hopefully it'll work for you!
     
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  6. Oct 21, 2020 at 4:33 PM
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    Honestly, if I were you I would get in touch with Marie at @HeadStrong Off-Road and let her or any other pro there help you decide.

    If I didn't get a super deal too good to pass up (Icon) I would have gotten something from them. She hooked me up with the entire kit on my first Tacoma (totalled) and it was perfect. If I find these packs I have waiting don't work out, she'll be getting an email from me.
     
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  7. Oct 21, 2020 at 4:35 PM
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    This is exactly the news I have been waiting for! Time to place an order.
     
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  8. Oct 22, 2020 at 1:56 PM
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    Have Westcott lift and love it
     
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  9. Oct 23, 2020 at 11:29 AM
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    Because there are so many variations in modifications, we test with factory weight. The goal of these coils is to lift the front of the truck as much as we can while working within the range of the damping zones in the shock. Because we offer a 1" lift solution we want to be as close to level as we can with the complete Eibach solution, so small height accommodations are made. We didn't have to adjust these, but as an example, if this prototype were nose high and rode more toware the top-out zone we would make the adjustment to match more closely with the rear heights, even if that doesn't mean maximum lift.
    As we're offering a complete solution, we want to create something that works correctly and still looks good.

    In regards to the armor question, you need to know the total weights first, but I can tell you our rate on the spring is 620lb/in. So let's say your total new weight is 200lb.
    *Divide that to each corner.
    *It takes 620lb to compress the spring 1 inch.
    *with that understanding, 100lb would move the spring .16 of an inch.
    *I don't have motion ratios in front of me but if I were to guess you would lose about .5" at the fender? So you would still be lifted more than factory height.
     
  10. Oct 24, 2020 at 11:21 AM
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    Had the Westcott kit installed a week ago and love it! No regrets at all. It clears 285s easily with no rubbing, even with mud flaps!
     
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  11. Oct 24, 2020 at 2:59 PM
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    throw up some pictures already! :)
     
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    ya would love to see some photos
     
  13. Oct 26, 2020 at 4:42 AM
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    @mark@eibach, where are we on the 2020 update? Tires are rubbing, my friend :)
     
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    Mark, thanks for the detailed response, very informative. Just curious, what spring rate did you all measure on the stock springs? That information doesn't seem to be readily available it would be nice to know that to get an idea of how much of an increase your springs will provide.
     
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  15. Oct 30, 2020 at 9:07 PM
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    The suspense is killing me. What level kit did you install?
     
  16. Oct 30, 2020 at 9:16 PM
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    Judging by him being at eibach im guessing he is one of the test trucks for the new eibach trd pro kit.
     
  17. Oct 31, 2020 at 5:23 AM
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    Did they install a block in the rear?
     
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  18. Oct 31, 2020 at 9:00 AM
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    it looks nose high squatting could just be the angle
     
  19. Oct 31, 2020 at 1:54 PM
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    Dude, can you please post some level photos from the side? We really want to see what we’re in for.

    Mark, when are we looking to be able to put in orders from dealers?
     
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