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Taco PRO Owners: Interested in a spring upgrade for front?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Ryan at Eibach, Dec 17, 2019.

  1. Dec 23, 2019 at 7:33 AM
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    GreyBaldTaco

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    I'm no suspension guru, but how do blocks not require longer shocks?
     
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  2. Dec 23, 2019 at 7:35 AM
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    Actually, your both right, but he is more right.

    You said that adding a block wont extend the travel of your leaf springs. Your right it wont, but he is right in the fact that the mounting location for the rear strut is now moved (size of block) away from the original mounting point. So now while sitting there, the strut is 2 inches more extended than it was originally.
    The only way adding a block would not extend the shock is if the struts mount was on the leaf spring.
     
  3. Dec 23, 2019 at 7:36 AM
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    Could one of you guys be thinking of an add-a-leaf installed on a stock leaf pack to aid in Hauling Weight were the other guy is thinking of Adding Leafs to a stock spring set to gain height? I definitely agree adding a add-a-leaf which adds 1" of lift would be ok with the stock Fox rear Shocks but adding leafs to a stock pack to increase the ride height more than 1.5" would destroy the stock Fox rear shock.
     
  4. Dec 23, 2019 at 7:41 AM
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    I was speaking to a small block, didn't know I needed to specify that. We’re talking about using stock Fox shocks, so if someone puts a 4” block in the rear, they have bigger issues. I’m saying a 1” block in the rear will not OVER extend the rears to the point of failure.
     
  5. Dec 23, 2019 at 7:43 AM
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    Well what you initially said was:
    upload_2019-12-23_9-43-5.jpg
     
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  6. Dec 23, 2019 at 7:44 AM
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    You’re correct; however, as I said above I was talking about a small block like what would be used to compliment a 1-2” front lift. But also I said over extend, obviously at static ride height the shock will be extended beyond stock whatever the added block/leaf thickness is. What he’s saying about AAL is completely wrong though.
     
  7. Dec 23, 2019 at 7:45 AM
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    I apologize in advance, this is obviously not a Tacoma but Since I have not altered my stock suspension yet on the Pro, here is a picture of a vehicle that I lifted using a Block in the rear. The Stock rear shocks would no longer fit eyelet to eyelet so I had to installed Longer Shocks. Boy, talk about research finding Longer, appropriate shocks for a 2wd express van!

    Van5.jpg
     
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  8. Dec 23, 2019 at 7:46 AM
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    Next time I’ll put in a disclaimer to not put in a 4” block when your only lifting the front 1-2”. So I get what you’re saying.
     
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  9. Dec 23, 2019 at 7:54 AM
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    Not 100% sure yet until we do a ride evaluation. Generally we increase rate a little and we obviously want to lift it.
     
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    Lots of guys on here seem happy with the revtek427 kit which is 1-1/2”. I will wait for these springs to see what happens. I would love to see an 1-1/2” lift as it seems anything above that lead to ecgs issues and the limit for the upper arms.
    Might even make sense to have the drivers side slightly longer to eliminate any taco lean. Looking forward to the results.
     
  11. Dec 23, 2019 at 9:17 AM
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    Yeah, its not though. Adding a leaf = adding material between the frame and the axle, and unless your leaf pack sags after you add a leaf (it wont, thats the whole point of an AAL) to account for the extra thickness, the only way for your shocks not to extend is if your back wheels are levitating.

    Im not claiming to be an expert but Ive been under the truck making these changes and seeing the impacts. But thats "obvious" to you, right?

    E: ah i see this devolved from saying blocks or aal wont impact your shocks any more than stock to being pedantic about saying "over" extending. Classic maneuver there, Im proud of you.
     
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    I'm definitely interested in this! Was planning on gutting my stock fox suspension next month but now I will be waiting :)
     
  13. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:10 AM
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    THIS A MILLION TIMES THIS.

    Eibach must be run by ex-big Tobaco execs, because they think you all are just as stupid when it comes to the blatantly obvious reality that there is no possible way jamming blocks into your fox suspension could even remotely be "ok". Only at this clown-show of a message board would an actual, reputable manufacturer be prodding the local smoothbrain community about selling them BLOCK SPACERS for their ~$50k trucks that have ALREADY HAVE ~$3K performance suspensions on them from the factory.

    And for the people not catching on, Eibach have correctly identified "Tacoma-world" for the block-spacer marks they are and are attempting to "Capitalize" ($$$) on it by offering you shit that will GUARANTEE do damage to your truck in the long run.

    No amount of mental gymnastics can explain away the above FACTS. none. zero. The end.
    How on earth were you able to reach the financial means to afford a TRD-PRO, while simultaneously being someone who knows so little about basic physics, or even simple research, that you think this is a good idea?

    Tacomaworld is a clinical-case study on "confirmation-bias" where john-knows-jack-who-knows-a-guy-who-did-it-and-was-fine, "so im doing it too" ALL just to fit KO2's on their truck. see "Im doing it and Im fine". is the motto.
     
  14. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:12 AM
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    So this is a great post except they are looking at selling new springs for the front not blocks.....
     
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    Dont yell at me, I just wanted orange springs :)
     
  16. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:28 AM
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    Why would a coil spring manufacturer produce blocks, genius? :D
     
  17. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:29 AM
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    Im pretty sure this is BadKitty.
    upload_2019-12-23_13-29-48.jpg
     
  18. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:30 AM
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    LOL absolutely classic. I mean is literally in the first post. Verbatim.

     
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    You should read it again, maybe a little slower this time....they are making springs, not blocks. They are saying you can run a block in the rear if you want, or even an AAL....they aren't making either of those.

    upload_2019-12-23_13-32-6.jpg
     
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  20. Dec 23, 2019 at 11:32 AM
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    The entire of premise of this post is frontal coil springs. You're back peddling. :)
     
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