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Tacoma oil filters

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by dgjones, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. Apr 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM
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    dgjones

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    I was told by my dealer that using a toyota oil filter helps portect your engine during cold starts because it keeps a quart of oil inside the engine when off. Instead of all the oil just draining back inside the oil pan.

    Has anyone else heard this??
     
  2. Apr 16, 2009 at 9:45 AM
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    I dont think it keeps a quart. It should keep whatever the filter holds. Maybe 1/3 or so quarts. Most filters have an anti drain back valve in them. With that being said, I use the OEM filter, as they tested really good compared to other filters.
     
  3. Apr 16, 2009 at 1:11 PM
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  4. Apr 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM
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    As far as I know there is always some left in your filter. I have used the Fram Tough Guard for all my vehicles. Little more expensive than some but well worth it. Really piss the dealer off go back for an oil change and bring the Fram with you and tell this is what you want. Just make sure that when you get the bill ensure he did no include the price for an oil filter and if it is just a total tell him to compansate you for the filter you brought in at least kock some off the bill. Has worked for me Hell they can only say no and you are putting on a better filter
     
  5. Apr 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM
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    i have found that the best possible filter for my truck is the naoa gold oil filters. they work wonderfully. i change my own oil...so it helps alot on cost.
     
  6. Apr 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM
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    chris4x4

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    You should look into how those Fram filters are made, and how much filtering surface area is actually in them.
     
  7. Apr 16, 2009 at 7:12 PM
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    RGR That. I have used for ages and had no issues. I guess it boils down to using what ever gets you into that comfort zone. Thanks
     
  8. Apr 16, 2009 at 10:59 PM
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    I use OEM filters. They work great for me. They design so they can go for 5k oil change intervals.
     
  9. Apr 17, 2009 at 7:52 AM
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    Napa Gold and Wix filters are the same. They are a very good filter. Fram filters are not very good filters. Go with a Wix, Purolater, Mobil 1, Amsoil filter. Bosch are alright also. OEM filter is good to.
     
  10. Apr 17, 2009 at 12:28 PM
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    I am not a big fan of Fram oil filters, but recently looking for a oil filter for my wife's Sienna which is a canister type, where you just change the inside filtering element, I was very very impressed with Fram filters. In this case since you can actually see and feel the filtering element, I notice that the Fram is made up of thick syntetic fibers. It looked alot better than Toyota filters I have been using up to now where it looked like card board (what every body calls the filtering elements of Fram filters - convensional type). Bottom line is I was surprised and if they use the same type of element in their convensional filters, I would gladly install it in my truck!
     
  11. Apr 18, 2009 at 9:29 AM
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    Where I work we have Toyota forklifts,
    'Yota Lift.jpg They are propane fueled with little 136 cu in 4 bangers. Well the 'Yota tech was there at the shop yesterday servicing them. I was being nosey chatting up the dude and rummaging through the parts box when I noticed that the oil filter is the same ones I use on my '08 V-6. Toyota 90915-******. I asked him if it was a popular filter and he said I'd be amazed what that thing fits.

    Napa part # 1348 is the cross reference for the 90915. Looky looky.

    http://www.napafilters.com/filterlookup/PartApplications.asp?Part=1348

    :eek: <----there, already did it for you non-believers.

    So if you see someone on the side of the road with a YUGO and they need a filter, be a pal and pass on your spare filter.

    Makes ya wonder did they make the filter for the truck or the truck for the filter....Doh!
     
  12. Apr 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM
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  13. Apr 18, 2009 at 11:57 AM
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    The most important thing is changing your oil REGULARLY. I change the oil in my vehicles every 3,000 miles. <....thats a period at the end of that statement.
    I've talked to several mechanics and most say the Napa Gold is one of the best. They also say use whatever but change the oil regularly. I"ll use the Napa gold or OEM. I did use Fram Tough Guard cause I liked the grippy surface that I could hand twist off. More than a few mechanics said Fram was lower on the scale than some filters mentioned here but as a previous poster stated he runs the Fram in all his vehicles without complaint, so there ya have it.
    However, if you're relying on your dealership for anything, I don't recommend you piss them off by insisting on being comped for having them install a filter that is proven to have inferior specs than the OEM.
     
  14. Apr 18, 2009 at 12:42 PM
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    Good discussion. I changed the oil on my new 2006 Tacoma last night for the first time. Love the filter location. I put a Fram on but am considering others. I have used Fram filters on my 17 year old Mazda 4x4 for 15 years with synthetic and excellent results. Anyone know if there is a standard particle size filters are tested with?

    Here are a couple of websites for oil and filter information. They actually cut open the filters and compare on the ntpog site.

    http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

    Yamabiker
     
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    That anti-drainback speil is a stardard stealership thing they are trained to tell you.
    If you can find an oil filter for this truck without an anti-drainback valve, I'll give you $100 for it.
    I've seen this question on another forum, and I was told the same thing at the dealer.
    As for filters, the OEM works OK I guess, but it's a real cheapy inside. I should post pics.
    Of the comparisons I've made with OEM, Purolator, PureOne, and Mobil 1 Extended Performance, by dunking the pre-oiled filter element cylinder (out of the can) into 5W-20 oil at room temperature up to the top and timing how long it takes to fill completely ( a flow test) The OEMs did flow best at about 1.4 cc/second--full in 21 seconds.
    The Purolator was about 0.95 cc per second at 75 seconds.
    (You have to measure the element support tube and calculate its approximate volume or the test is meaningless. The Purolator has a much bigger inner support tube volume to fill) The Mobil 1 came in at about 0.63, followed last by the PureOne.
    With about 1/4 cup of regular baking flour in a quart of oil, and stirred between each sample, I suck out some filtered oil from the center of the filter element and look at it in a small clear bottle against a light. I did this side by side with all samples.
    Not scientific, but it seems the Purolator filtered visibly a little better than the OEM. The Mobil 1 looked cloudier, and I didn't test the PureOne this way.
    Again, this is just a non-scientific indicative comparison for my own curiosity.
    At the end of the day, for my truck and the way I drive it, I would use the OEM, but prefer the Purolator. I had a PureOne on the truck, and also tried the Mobil1. Could have been my imagination, but I think the oil light goes out quicker on start-up (where they say most wear occurs) with the OEM and the Purolator.
    I think that once a motor is out of break-in, if the oil is changed regularly and the air-cleaner element is good, there isn't a lot of debris in the oil to be filtered. I decided that the Purolator was the best compromise between good filtration and good flow and build quality for me, with OEM a second choice.
    There are a lot of filters out there I didn't test. WIX are supposed to be good, too.
    I didn't test Fram because I hate them.
    My 2 cents worth.

    Rob
     
  16. Dec 8, 2009 at 6:57 PM
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    I used to work for Purolator. The testing they did showed the PurOne filter to be superior to almost all other filters. This was probably 10 years ago. Things may have changed. The SOBs terminated me but I still buy the filters.
     
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    Pretty sure all name-brand filters have the anti-drain valve. As far as I know, the only oil filters that hold anywhere near 1 qt are on diesel rigs or other large diesel engines. I use the Purolator PureOne, they are about $5.50 each from Amazon.com with free 'super saver' shipping (if your purchase is $25 or over) - bought 4 with an aFe Pro Dry air filter at the same time.
     
  18. Dec 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM
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    That was a great post. Very informative - thank you! Another thanks for helping me find a quote for my signature! In that one sentence you pretty much said everything you needed to say about Fram - "I didn't test Fram because I hate them."
     
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    We have a bunch of the Toyota Forklift filters in the garage, it's a different part number than the taco but looking at it, it's the same as the tacoma. I guess that's why we have it, it fits 22re. I use the PureOne filter myself. It's fairly price ($6) and it's very comparable to the mobil 1 in filtration if not better. I'd stay away from Fram.
     
  20. Dec 29, 2009 at 11:24 AM
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    Thanks...heres a link. This is current for filters on the shelves now and consolidates the info spread out in the other posts:

    http://filtrationcomparisons.weebly.com/



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