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Tacoma or Tundra Diesel - which would you choose?

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  1. Mar 3, 2019 at 8:20 PM
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    TacoD@n

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    Ok, we all know this will probably never happen but if it did, what would you all choose between:

    1) Tacoma Diesel (maybe between a 2.8-3.0L)

    or
    2) Tundra V8 5.7-5.9L Diesel

    I would be interested to know what everyone’s choice would be and engine/transmission options. Personally, as long as it was some kind of Cummins or Powerstroke with Allison transmission would be awesome
     
  2. Mar 4, 2019 at 4:25 AM
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    Two totally different trucks for different purposes. Can't wheel a Tundra in the tighter trails, can't pull a largeish RV / toy hauler with a Tacoma.....
     
  3. Mar 4, 2019 at 4:26 AM
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    Also Toyota has their own line of commercial duty diesels in their Hino trucks. That said I know nothing about the specifics of Hino engines so if I had to make a domestic choice it would be Cummins paired with Allison or Cat
     
  4. Mar 4, 2019 at 4:34 AM
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    For me it would be Tacoma with a manual trans
     
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    Why not both?
     
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    Cummins and Allison aren’t likely to pair up for a long, long time given who they are doing business with.

    I would buy neither. I’m not interested in a Toyota diesel... which would not be a cummins. I’d be nervous about an unproven engine in a Toyota.

    I’m a Ford lover but powerstrokes have horrible reliability.
     
  7. Mar 4, 2019 at 4:40 AM
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    I've never heard anyone refer to the 7.3 psd as unreliable.
     
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    You are talking about the older tried and true powerstroke which they didn’t make again until this year. The reason the PSD has gone down in reliability is because of the redesigns due to EPA regulations.
    Those regulations haven’t changed.

    I would pick Cummins over Powerstroke for todays diesels. Not the ones from yester year you will never see made again.

    We are talking engines that would end up in a truck today.
     
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    You right, that just clicked.

    Carry on :thumbsup:
     
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    Except the 7.3 you’re referring to is a gas engine. The 6.7 psd is a badass motor that had problems when it first came out in 2011. Emissions have hindered every diesel motor on the market.

    I’m not sure I’d buy any half ton diesel. Too expensive for a half ton when you can grab a 3/4 for the same price.
     
  11. Mar 4, 2019 at 5:04 AM
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    No. The 7.3L is a power stroke diesel engine whos last production year outside of 2019 was 2003. And I don’t think the current engine is the same but I could be wrong.
     
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    No I know the 7.3 was a diesel. The new 7.3 is a pushrod gas motor.
     
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    I would opt for a tacoma with a 4.6l V8 gas.
     
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    Ahhh. Gotcha.
     
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    It would be a little rocket :burnrubber:
     
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    The 7.3L PSD wasn’t even a ford motor. The 6.0 was their first attempt at a diesel motor and it was honestly pretty damn good, once you took care of the EGR.

    The old 6.9/7.3 IDI and then later PSD suffered from their own issues (cavitation) but nothing like the newer PSDs. But the newer ones are ridiculously reliable once you take care of a few things. I’d take a newer PSD over Cummins but you really wouldn’t go wrong picking either tbh.
     
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    I remember reading an article roughly 15 years ago in Popular Mechanics debating gas vs diesel engines from Ford, Chevy, and Dodge 3/4 ton and heavier trucks. The diesel engine has always cost more, but until recently diesel fuel was a lot cheaper and got better fuel mileage. But even then, it took 250,000 miles to break even on the cost of ownership.

    In 2019 diesel fuel is 50 cents to $1 more per gallon and fuel mileage is the same. EPA, and DEF requirements along with much more maintenance mean you'll NEVER break even on the costs of ownership. Even if you factory in that the diesel engines last longer. You can run a gas engine 400,000 miles, replace the engine with a new one and still come out ahead financially compared to diesel.

    I think the concept of diesel powered light trucks is about 2 decades too late to be practical. For guys using heavy duty trucks commercially who regularly tow or haul heavy loads they make sense. But for most of us who may pull a heavy travel trailer a few times a year a gas engine is probably a better choice. Ford has proven that the gas powered turbo engines will reliably pull some pretty heavy loads and still manage reasonable fuel mileage. I think that is the future.
     
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    Except it’s much easier to find acceptable diesel fuel vs acceptable gasoline. That is the big attraction to me...if I’m in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, I want to be able to fill up my truck and not worry about the quality of the fuel I’m using.
     
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    Toyota Diesels are not "unproven." Hilux (overseas tacoma) have been running diesels for centries. You CAN get a diesel Tacoma btw but for the tune of $30k ish.

    https://dieseltoys.com/
     
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