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Tacoma payload ?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by evoix4me, May 4, 2019.

  1. May 4, 2019 at 5:46 PM
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    Junkhead

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    I had a yard of gravel in back of my short box and it felt totally fine. You can go a bit over the payload, but just gotta be careful, dont go too crazy.

    My previous trucks payload was pretty much same as 3rd gen 4x4 taco, i had a ton of scrap tiles in the back(only realized it was a ton wnen i was at the scale at the dump). It handled it no problem. Engine and brakes felt fine.

    Im not saying its a great idea but just gotta be careful and use common sense. Good luck!
     
  2. May 4, 2019 at 6:04 PM
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    Terrible idea. Was less then 2 miles though. It ran fine. Definitely won't ever be going near that weight again

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  3. May 4, 2019 at 7:00 PM
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    This seems to be the way to do it. Make a track that bolts to the truck, get a ATV winch to pull it up the track.

    Bet you could make most of it from a old ladder...
     
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    Side question, is the payload weight based on what the engine can move or the suspension can hold?
     
  6. May 4, 2019 at 8:58 PM
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    based on axle, suspension, brakes, and materials used in construction, also has to do with government ratings/safety.
     
  7. May 4, 2019 at 9:52 PM
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    Tires, suspension, braking, engine cooling capacity, transmission cooling capacity, overall stability, frame and bed strength, and more. The engineers have a target of what payload (and GVWR and GCVW) they want to end up with when they design it and spec the parts on the truck accordingly.

    There was actually a good article on the development of the gladiator where the engineers discussed what went in to making it achieve its highest in class tow and payload rating.
     
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    That’s nuts!
     
  9. May 5, 2019 at 10:50 AM
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    Holy shit! Haha! How much weight was that??
     
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    Was a full pallet of cypress mulch from home depot.... Not sure of the exact weight tho
     
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    Got the article link by chance?
     
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    Sooooo.... Did we get a video?
     
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    In case no has mentioned it yet, I believe the manual states that whenever the differential and axles are submerged, they need to be serviced.
     
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    I definitely agree that engineers have a target in mind when it comes to figuring out frame, bed strength brakes, ect.

    The problem I have with the Wrangler and the gladiator derivative....it's cheaply made (interior components falling apart, windows cracking, frame welds coming apart) and it's still reliant on mostly the same powertrain (engine, transmission) as what the wrangler uses...I don't see it being much of a towing/hauling beast, despite what the journo's and FCA are claiming.
     
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    1 pallet of sod. The guy said it was close to 2000 lbs. Did this twice, for roughly a 40 mile trip both times. No problem...a little white knuckle though!
     
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    I have loaded my truck up to 2000lbs....you are fine. Have at it
     
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    OP, you received many answers... however none addressed the question completely. Each truck has a “Tire and Loading Information” label on the drivers side door jam. Depending on your specific options, the Never Exceed Combined Passenger & Cargo Weight (some will call that payload) is clearly printed on this label. My truck is a 2018 “Limited” trim model, with factory tonneau cover and tube side steps. Any factory options installed on your specific truck will be deducted from the advertised carrying capacity, and will be reflected in this number. Since my model is fully equipped and has the above options, it’s heavy and thus the printed never exceed weight is only 1000 lbs. So, ALL passengers, aftermarket mods, and other extra items I’ve placed into the cab (like fire extinguisher, tools, etc.), along with whatever I have in the bed, cannot exceed that 1000 lbs. Additional note: if towing, you must also include tongue weight as part of the 1000 lbs (for my specific truck).

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    There is also a yellow addendum sticker that may or may not be in the same area as the load info label. In my case, Toyota didn’t include something on my truck which caused the weight to be 34 lbs more than originally calculated, effectively reducing my vehicle’s max “payload” weight to 966 lbs.

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    What does that all matter... your vehicle performance and safety capabilities are based in part on published Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. Exceeding the GVWR, 5600 lbs for my year/trim, may result in vehicle mechanical damage and substandard performance, i.e. longer braking distance and potential early brake failure (brake fade) due to overheating at high weights (along with many other potential malfunctions). Failure to observe the published limitations on vehicles could also result in unnecessary consequences from DPS, DOT, and/or insurance companies.

    Bottom line, you should check your specific truck label(s) for “The Combined Weight of Occupants and Cargo Should Never Exceed” weight as printed.
     
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    I wasn’t endorsing the Gladiator, just using it as an easy example of the engineering that goes in to towing and payload ratings.

    Engines and transmissions have little to do with it, beyond a certain amount of HP and gearing it’s the the stress they put on the cooling system and the weight they add to the system that matters. Wranglers have significantly lower ratings in part because of their frame length; they’re a lot shorter so they don’t tow or haul as well as a longer vehicle.

    As far as quality of manufacturing... an Italian car company bought Jeep, I’m not surprised that QC isn’t job 1. That still doesn’t affect the ratings since the rating assume its all put together right.
     
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    All you need to either load or unload is a hand crank winch and a cradle/stand to winch it onto. A QR attachment on the front bedrail and another on the wall behind the cradle(easiest would be an eyebolt and carabiner. It's possible to overload if there's a ton of extra crap besides you and the ski but if you keep it to 200-250 you should be fine. If it sags too much you'll either need more spring capacity or lift bags to level it and keep it off the bump stops. Leveling doesn't change load rating, it just gives the shocks room to travel in both directions and protect the axle/bearings.
     

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