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Tacoma Vs. Rivian

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by mustainefan, Jul 25, 2022.

  1. Oct 3, 2022 at 11:39 AM
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    Turd Ferguson

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    Isn’t the level 2 charger what most people are going to have at their homes? Isn’t that also where most people will be doing the majority of their charging for both convenience and cost savings?
     
  2. Oct 3, 2022 at 11:44 AM
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    Yes but you will very rarely be charging from almost zero percent. If you notice it says it’s charging at 13 miles an hour so an overnight 8hr charge adds 100 miles back to the battery, more than enough for most daily commutes.
     
  3. Oct 3, 2022 at 11:48 AM
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    I’m referring to all EVs not just the Hummer. Is driving around with an extra 500 Pounds really worth it? Would you keep an extra 500 pounds of materials in the bed of your truck if you weren’t using it?
     
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    I drove my Tesla down to 12% yesterday. I didn’t need to stop at any DC fast charging on my trip. I got home around 5:30pm and by 12:30am my car was charged back up to 90% with an estimated 354 miles of range.
     
  5. Oct 3, 2022 at 11:52 AM
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    The Hummer is an extreme example but I’ve thought about that a lot myself in regards to the Rivian Large Pack vs Max Pack. The nice thing is my price is locked in so I can “jump ship” on the Max Pack at any time and get a Large Pack and the longer I wait the more revisions to hardware that I get for “free”.
     
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  6. Oct 3, 2022 at 11:53 AM
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    The weight is the thing I hate about electric vehicles. It's more like 2000lbs of battery for a good sized vehicle. It's ridiculous
     
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    He’s referencing the delta between a large and very large battery pack not the entire weight of the pack.
     
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    The weight difference between a Rivian and a Tacoma double cab is like 2500 pounds. That’s about the weight of an older Honda Civic. Going to the max pack battery will most likely add another 500 pounds to that. That’s like a yard of mulch. Imagine driving around with a load of mulch and Honda Civic in your Tacoma. That’s an insane amount of weight in a small package.
     
  9. Oct 3, 2022 at 12:24 PM
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    But the weight itself shouldn't matter.... at all times with ICE you're at what ~30% efficiency? So at the end of the day it's total energy used and even with the weight of an EV it's way less than an ICE vehicle
     
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    I’m thinking more along the lines of driving with that much weight rather than which is more efficient. That’s a lot of weight to stop in the rain, snow, ice etc. Swerving to avoid an accident? Driving in sand, mud or even your front lawn. It could even be an issue with small bridges.
     
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    If you get big enough, like with the Hummer. But for normal vehicles, even an EV full sized truck or SUV, it won't be more significant than anything ICE today.
     
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    I take it that not everyone has four 125 pound babes that sit in their truck waiting to be sexed? Hmmmm.
     
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    four haha
     
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    I know right? They are a pain in the ass sometimes.
     
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    It is very significantly more. Did you read his comment? The Rivian weighs 2500lbs (maybe 3000 with a bigger battery) more than a taco. That has major implications for a great number of things. That's why my stance is that for common people, a small EV for around the city is great, but for towing, overlanding, trails etc, they're not a good solution
     
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    The R1T curb weight of 5840lbs is roughly 1300lbs heavier than a DCSB Tacoma at 4500lbs. It’s in the same window as a F150, Ram 1500 or Chevy/GMC 1500. The Rivian isn’t light but it’s not heavier than other trucks that still tow, overland, off-road, etc.

    It weighs about 600lbs less than my TRX and I do all of that without problems.
     
  19. Oct 3, 2022 at 10:40 PM
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    You might wanna let them know to edit their wikipedia page. The curb weight is 7,148lbs. That would be obnoxiously heavy
     
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    If you zoom in you can see the GVWR on this R1T is 65xx pounds with a payload of 1419lbs. That math works out to about a 5100lb curb weight. Google said 5840lbs curb weight and 7148lbs GVWR. I completely forgot to check these stickers on the one I test drove a while back.
     
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