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Tacoma Vs. Rivian

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by mustainefan, Jul 25, 2022.

  1. Aug 5, 2022 at 2:26 PM
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    Zero issues?

    We replaced every bulb in our house to LED when we moved in, we saw about a 10% failure rate for them within the first couple of years. Over the course of say 5 years, we have replaced about 50%.. Even with internal LED's on the truck, im already on my 3rd set in some cases.

    I've seen other issues with LED's causing the new style of breakers to constantly trip as well.
     
  2. Aug 5, 2022 at 2:32 PM
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    Yes, zero issues. I have Feit bulb from a Costco or Philips Hue bulbs everywhere. When was your house built? I wonder if it is something with your wiring.
     
  3. Aug 5, 2022 at 3:09 PM
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    What brand LEDs were you using? Haven't had any issues with breakers either. House was built in 2001.
     
  4. Aug 5, 2022 at 3:11 PM
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    My house was built in 2006 but the house that has the issues with the breakers was built in 2017 under new code requirements. It's not the wiring it is 100% LED.

    I have feit bulbs as well and Philips, both have failed. I've used GE, Ecosmart, etc, they all basically equally suck.

    You would be the first person in the entire world to never experience an LED issue.
     
  5. Aug 5, 2022 at 3:13 PM
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    I doubt it.
     
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    All GE, live in an old house built in ‘47…previous owners had it rewired, but think it is getting some surges to cause them to fail prematurely. Could get it rewired again, not worth the expense to me just to have LEDs.
     
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  7. Aug 5, 2022 at 3:50 PM
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    The theme
     
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    I guess you don’t realize how dumb your statement was.

    “You would be the first person in the entire world to never experience an LED issue.”

    Just think about that for a second…
     
  9. Aug 5, 2022 at 5:16 PM
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    Know plenty of people who have switched over to all LED in the house without significant issues.
     
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    we have switched over all that make sense, the dimmable lights have not been switched since i dont want to spend the money on replacing the switches yet. no real issue and i dont really hunt for specific brands just output color warm light.
     
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    I’ve had warm ones in living areas and cool in the work areas, kitchen and garage. They’ve both failed here and there.
     
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    That’s the whole idea…maybe think about that for a second.
     
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    There's 10k of incentives from feds and state for the PHEV version, so the actual difference would be 3.5k. (never mind trim differences, etc). R4 (not hybrid) gets 27/35, or roughly 31 MPG combined, which @ $5/gal, comes out to 16c/mile. So, given that the PHEV gets roughly (okay, slightly better) milage than the non-hybrid, that comes out to 22k miles on batteries @ payback, so it depends on how many 'in town' EV miles I get.

    That said, I'm the type to keep a rig for 20 years, so... :p What's a trade-in?

    I mean yeah, buying a 'gently used' car would reduce that upfront cost a little, but when used prices are so stupid (and have been for a while, tbh, in yota-land) might as well get the new one. Remember, my R4P replaced a (pretty nicely modded/tuned/etc) 03 TDI Jetta Wagon.
     
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    Comparing Apples to Oranges. I personally can't see $67,000 for a Rivian.
     
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    Funny since I casually mentioned LEDs have one starting to flicker in the living room can fixtures just today. They never completely burn out, either they flicker or grow dim.

    It is definitely the wiring in the house, finding they have cut some corners, like having too many large appliances on one circuit. Does need some reworking, we are also looking into moving…so no real desire of putting too much money into this house.
     
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    That isn’t too terrible. Thanks
     
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    You aren’t the first person in the entire world to not understand statistics.
     
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    Smartphones will explode and kill me while I sleep and LED is inferior to incandescent really does sum up the luddite boomer takes that permeate this thread. Wild.

    Buy Cree LEDs, by the way. LED bulbs are unique because they aren’t just bulbs: each bulb has an onboard controller. The LED themselves almost never die but the controllers of cheaper ones often fail. I understand that the controller failing is equivalent to a non-LED bulb failing, by the way, just pointing out why there’s a difference between brands.
     
  19. Aug 6, 2022 at 6:25 AM
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    Not a boomer, never said LEDs were inferior. They don’t work in our house. They aren’t perfect either, plenty of industrial quality LED converted traffic lights out there that half the board is dead. Could name 1000s of other applications where there is failure too. They don’t hold up on my trailer either, don’t like being bounced dirt roads is my guess.

    What is with the generational insults anyway? Is it a millennial thing feeling triggered? Do you need a safe place? :D :p lol!

    This thread is almost as bad the oil threads on the dirt bike forum I follow. People get so ingrained what products are best. Nothing is perfect, like humans all products have their flaws.

    Yep I know…

    My issue with LEDs is, that they are supposed to save you money over the long run, but they really don’t. Kinda like EVs…I actually like the tech, but they won’t be saving you any money. Man…saving the planet sure is awfully expensive, and why is that?

    Human caused problems are caused by well…humans. Always thought that less of us is a better answer. Want to reduce resource and energy consumption? Zero population growth until it gets to a more sustainable level is the better solution, though unpopular. It is affordable and non-violent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB97iwcm_Qc
     
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    Lies, damn lies, and statistics
     
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