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Talk me out of getting a Ranger!

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016+)' started by Knight405, May 6, 2019.

  1. Aug 13, 2019 at 4:51 PM
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    Gritto

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    Sheesh, that's more entertainment than review.

    The music is loud and very obtrusive.
    No mention of their criteria, and yet so very self-important about their "system".
    Subjective, squishy verbiage.
    They look like what they are, writers who happened to get jobs reviewing trucks.
    Growing beards don't make them relatable "truck guys", or not like any I know.
    But hey, I live in the hinterland and have driven trucks all my adult life, and am most definitely not cool.
    Ugh.
    Sorry, the whole thing rubs me wrong.
    They're salesmen, not reviewers.
     
  2. Aug 13, 2019 at 5:40 PM
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    This statement goes without saying :D Seriously tho everyone giving a poo about how many they sell wtf I don’t think Ford really cares cuz if they did they’d a dropped the 2.7 Ecoboost in there and baboom game over :burnrubber:
     
  3. Aug 13, 2019 at 8:04 PM
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    You don't think ford cares how many rangers sell, seriously? I know youre known for your tacoma hate, but be honest with yourself
     
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  4. Aug 13, 2019 at 8:06 PM
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    They care it’s sarcasm... but this rollout is only a dipping of the toe so to speak, the real new Ranger will come out alongside the return of the Bronco.
     
  5. Aug 14, 2019 at 7:25 AM
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    Except the article is wrong. The 20k rangers is their Q2 sales, and the 39k Frontiers is their year to date sales. Nissan sold 1k fewer Frontiers than the rangers in Q2. The ranger only sold 9k in Q1 vs the 20k frontiers in Q1, which is why the YTD figure still has the ranger behind the Nissan.
     
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  6. Aug 14, 2019 at 7:26 AM
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    That's not much of an incentive, and it only applies to purchase. The lease options are still absolutely abysmal.
     
  7. Aug 14, 2019 at 7:32 AM
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    Interesting. Do you have link for the correct data?

    Still, it is pretty damning for the Ranger.
     
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  8. Aug 14, 2019 at 9:28 AM
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    The data is the data. Of course, we are assuming that these sales reports are accurate but I have no reason to doubt them at this point as auto sales reports have been going on for quite some time.

    The article is not wrong. Saying it doesn't make it so. Consider this link. Scroll down to the monthly sales table at the bottom of the page:
    http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/us-pickup-truck-sales-figures-by-model/

    From January to June:

    Total Ranger sales: 24,301
    Total Frontier sales: 39,322

    Q2 2019:

    Total Ranger sales: 14,880
    Total Frontier sales: 19,101

    I don't know why they are only reporting 264 Rangers sold in June. Doesn't seem right. Also, check my math -- I did it quickly on the fly.

    Finally, I really don't have a dog in this fight. Drive a Tacoma. Drive a Ranger. Be happy with your truck. I don't feel strongly one way or another. I have a 2005 Tacoma that I like. I've seen the new Ranger and like it.

    But I do find the market, the strategy, the sales and the business part of the truck business intriguing. I have to think that Ford is disappointed in the Ranger sales thus far. Doesn't mean they can't turn it around but they should be taking half or more of that Nissan Frontier business at this point.
     
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  9. Aug 14, 2019 at 9:29 AM
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    Leases are garbage financial choices anyways.
     
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    Ford just announced an FX2 Baja option for the 2020 Rangers. It’s a $595 option but no mention of official 2020 pricing yet.
     
  11. Aug 14, 2019 at 1:40 PM
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    So you going to pay more for 2wd?? ooooohhhh, but maybe you get some decals, neat-o wheels
     
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    Plus some skid plate protection!
     
  13. Aug 14, 2019 at 2:21 PM
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    Neat-o wheels in a $595 option package? I think not :rofl:
     
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    Since the Ranger came out I’ve seen maybe 3 on the road? I see 3 third gen Tacoma’s on a 1 mile trip to the grocery store.
     
  15. Aug 15, 2019 at 11:28 PM
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    I was going off the link that was posted earlier.

    http://fordauthority.com/2019/08/ford-ranger-sales-numbers-figures-results-second-quarter-q2-2019/

    This is the article that shows the Ranger with 20k sales for Q2.

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    Compared to the article you posted which shows a meager 264 sales in June, and completely eliminated July, both of which show sales in the thousands for the Frontier. It seems to me like this second one is missing some data.

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    Not that this is all that relevant since you'd have to be nuts to think the Frontier is a better truck than anything on that list. I'm just saying the Frontier didn't outsell the Ranger in Q2, and if it did, it certainly wasn't a difference of nearly 20k trucks.

    I used to think that as well until I discovered that nearly every dollar I pay during the lease goes toward the purchase price if I buy it out at the end of the lease. By the end of my lease, I'll have paid $18k. My purchase price at the end of my lease is right around $22k. 41k-19k=22k. Doesn't seem that bad to me.
     
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  16. Aug 15, 2019 at 11:39 PM
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    It's pretty much the same exact package for the 2wd Ranger as it is for the 4x4. Skids, tires, shocks, electronic stuff, e-locker, and of course, stickers. Considering some people convert their Raptor to 2wd for desert running, I'd say this might be more popular than you think. Not my bag of chips, but if you don't care for 4x4, that's a hell of a bargain for what you get.
     
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    I’m genuinely curious, if you love the Ranger so much why on earth did you get a Tacoma?

    A quick look shows that most of your posts, including your first, are talking about how great you think the Ranger is. I don’t mean this in a “if you don’t like it get lost” sort of way, I just don’t understand why you would buy a Tacoma and join a Tacoma forum just to talk about how great you think a different truck is.

    The weird subculture of Ford fanboi’s that hang around TW just to talk sh%t on the Tacoma is something I will never understand. I loved my F150 for the first 59,000 miles aside from the garbage electronics. After the 60,000 mile mark it started falling apart, I had $6000 worth of repairs, and Ford’s service department was horrible to deal with.

    Obviously I wasn’t going to buy another one and I’m fairly certain I wouldn’t ever own another Ford product, but you won’t catch me on an F150 forum talking about what a piece of garbage my F150 turned out to be and how the Tundra is a better truck in every single way unless you require fancy electronics that are slow as f%ck and work like sh%t anyway.
     
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    The reason I went with the taco is the lack of lease incentives for the ranger. I could buy a ranger for almost the same payment as a lease, and I can't afford that until I pay off some other debt.

    I think the ranger is great, but that doesn't mean I don't think the taco is also great. I like my taco a lot, and I haven't talked smack on the taco at all, which you obviously know. I have a few trivial complaints about my taco like the keyless entry being exclusive to the driver door and the lack of remote start option. I think its reputation is undeserved since the third gen hasn't proven itself any more than any other truck, but that's not to say it's not reliable. It just hasn't lived long enough to prove it. The power is the ONLY legitimate complaint I have with it. Despite that, I'm still very happy with my taco. I just think that the Ranger is currently the better truck overall, mainly because Toyota is letting the taco live off how reliable people think it is, rather than keeping up with the competition in terms of technology. I mean, it has drum brakes ffs. If that's your thing, there's nothing wrong with it. I'd love to find a zero mile, pristine '78 F150 crew cab. However, if I'm paying new money, I'd rather be getting new technology. Again, I'm not talking sh%t, I'm just expressing the few things I'd have liked to see on my taco.

    If I were a betting man, I'd bet the 4th gen taco will have more power at a lower rpm and disk brakes on all 4. If that were to happen, I could still be swayed away from the ranger when this lease is up. Both trucks will be next gen at that time, so who knows. Right now, however, I'm leaning toward Ranger for my next truck.

    Also, if you think TW is the only forum with vocal fans of another truck, you must not spend much time on the internet.
     
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  20. Aug 16, 2019 at 2:34 PM
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    Wow! This shit-fest is still going on? o_O

    Who knew? :notsure:
     
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