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Tampa Bay Area Tacomas BS Thread

Discussion in 'Florida' started by Taco No Baka, Feb 9, 2013.

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  1. Jan 6, 2016 at 4:13 PM
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    SpruceTaco

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    Yeah I planned on buying them but she said she'd send them out so I didn't ask questions. Haha
     
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  2. Jan 6, 2016 at 4:20 PM
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    Taco No Baka

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    Taco No Baka [OP] Interco Tire Snob

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    My, my, gonna have to start calling you Frank Jr. :D
     
    Taco No Baka, Jan 6, 2016
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  3. Jan 6, 2016 at 4:20 PM
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    allenfab

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    allenfab I hate everything

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    speaking of all this CB talk, I got this stuff arriving tomorrow... and a couple other things

    I probably went overkill buying the 18' coax cord, so if anyone has a 9' cord and needs an 18', hit me up

    citrusorder.jpg
     
    allenfab, Jan 6, 2016
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  4. Jan 6, 2016 at 5:05 PM
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    Haha not even close!
     
    SpruceTaco, Jan 6, 2016
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  5. Jan 6, 2016 at 5:43 PM
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    Taco No Baka

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    Taco No Baka [OP] Interco Tire Snob

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    I dunno...free All-Pro Expos, free ditch lights, free spare caps for your antenna, super cheap price for your Maxtracs...and those are just the things I can think of off the top of my head. Definitely sounds like Frank Jr. to me. :D
     
    Taco No Baka, Jan 6, 2016
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  6. Jan 6, 2016 at 6:05 PM
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    Haha don't forget the $23 aluminum trd skid plate, free redline tuning hood struts & 4 new tires to go with the expos. :D
     
    SpruceTaco, Jan 6, 2016
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  7. Jan 6, 2016 at 6:09 PM
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    Taco No Baka

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    Taco No Baka [OP] Interco Tire Snob

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    Like I said, those were just the things off the top of my head, Jr. :D You haven't surpassed the master yet, but I'm guessing your running a close second...at least in this state.
     
    Taco No Baka, Jan 6, 2016
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  8. Jan 6, 2016 at 6:13 PM
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    Value wise @Rattletrap66 is way ahead of me. Lol
     
    SpruceTaco, Jan 6, 2016
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  9. Jan 6, 2016 at 6:17 PM
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    1997 t4r has super duty axles, 5.13s locked front and rear. 3 link front with 14" kings. Rear 63s.
    I'm still upset over that rear bumper snag
     
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  10. Jan 6, 2016 at 6:20 PM
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    SpruceTaco

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    Tinted windows 5%, sill protectors, TRD stubby antenna, weathertech in channel rain guards, wheathertech floor mats, BHLM, Truxedo low pro qt, DTRL deleted, anytime backup camera, bed storage locks, fog lights on anytime, tailgate theft deterrent, painted engine cover, relocated horns, l.e.d bed lights, l.e.d engine bay lights, l.e.d lights above cup holders, in glove box, rear cup holder, in console storage & cubby next to steering wheel, Grillcraft grill, 17x8.5 SCS Ray10's, 35x12.50 Nitto Ridge Grapplers, Borla cat back exhaust, map & dome l.e.d's, TEQ badge on grill, Redline tuning hood struts, Maxtrac spindles, SPC Light Racing UCA's, Bilstein 5100's front set at 0 with OME 885's & extended length Bilstein 5100's in the rear, All Pro expedition leaf springs & 2" blocks, extended brake lines front & rear, 1.5" 4crawler drive shaft spacer, Beefed Taco carrier bearing drop, 1.25" spidertrax wheel spacers on rear, Kenwood DNX570 touchscreen with navigation, 30" led light bar in lower bumper opening, 1/4" top plate spacer drivers side, Bullet Proof Fabricating skid plate, Cali Raised ditch lights & Rago f Fabrication brackets, Amp Research power steps, smoked l.e.d 3rd brake light, Wet Okole seat covers, under cab LED'S tied to dome circuit
    Yeah the was a hell of a deal.
     
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  11. Jan 6, 2016 at 6:22 PM
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    Ordered my lift. 5100s all around, 885 coils and a Toytec AAL. Hopefully everything gets installed before citrus. Next are skids and the a CB.
     
    Hugopreston, Jan 6, 2016
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  12. Jan 6, 2016 at 6:35 PM
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    Where are you installing your 2 way radio on the cabin? Show some pictures...
     
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  13. Jan 6, 2016 at 6:47 PM
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    No idea yet lol. Still need to do a lot of reading on what I need to get and how to tune it.
     
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  14. Jan 7, 2016 at 1:10 PM
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    Rattletrap66

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    should of got some RG8X coax
     
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  15. Jan 7, 2016 at 1:12 PM
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    Alright so it is looking like January 23rd will be the date for our meet, where do we want to do it at? I am thinking somewhere central for everyone maybe on the Tampa side of Gandy or Howard Franklin. I know there is a Hooters on Gandy

    4420 W Gandy Blvd, Tampa, FL 33611
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  16. Jan 7, 2016 at 2:01 PM
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    :( was hoping to eat somewhere different
     
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  18. Jan 7, 2016 at 2:59 PM
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    Taco No Baka

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    Taco No Baka [OP] Interco Tire Snob

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    I guess nobody wants to go to Outback, huh? :pout:
     
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  19. Jan 7, 2016 at 3:06 PM
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    I'd be down
     
    Rattletrap66, Jan 7, 2016
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  20. Jan 7, 2016 at 3:29 PM
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    Taco No Baka

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    Taco No Baka [OP] Interco Tire Snob

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    Only because I'm gonna have to save every dime I can if I'm going to have enough cash for Gulches and I have a gift card for Outback I got for x-mas of 2014 that I still haven't used.

    Oh and the gift card works at Carrabbas too if folks would prefer that (I know I would). :D
     
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