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tc or allpro +2 ?

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by hard2kill, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. Aug 28, 2012 at 7:13 PM
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    MightyMouse-SCT

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    Yeah if he's not going for wide just go TC stock replacements . Save money on fenders and axels .
     
  2. Aug 29, 2012 at 9:37 AM
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    Stock replacements won't gain me travel...that's why I'm goin +2 lt it's not to wide and I'll still get extra travel I want
     
  3. Aug 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM
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    Just to clarify - our base kit is $2295 plus $495 for axles and $1050-1395 for coilovers. We include spindle gussets as well and our arms are TIG welded. Also, our axles are 4340 chromoly, I'm not sure where you got 4130 except perhaps that our arms are made from that material, probably TC too. I think overall our kit is actually about $500 less. And, as mentioned, the only downside to our kit is there aren't any secondary shock mounting options.

    Our coilovers are priced a little higher since they are build specific to the travel of our kit instead of using generic 8" travel shocks with limit straps that require a lot of maintenance to ensure axles aren't over extended. The problems I believe you're referring to with your friend are seemingly due to Fox making the shocks wrong, but we're still trying to determine that. It is the only such problem we've heard of though.
     
  4. Aug 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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    You might consider researching on the FJ site about the 2"+ kits (more people running them). There are some threads about the actual travel numbers achieved. Even considering that T/C didnt acheive the same numbers as AP I'll probably still get the T/C kit. I'm not gonna start an AP bitch fest, but their service isnt consistant enough to make me open my wallet. MonkeyProof, a guy up in Canada, have put the AP kit thru some shit and havent had anything bad to say. Either kit will work as intended and be better than a typical mid-travel kit. If you plan to ever go from the 2 to the 3.5 kit you should consider T/C since they use a standard 8" coilover.

    I've got axles for the 2" kit, just waiting for the right deal on coilovers or something breaks and forces me to pick up my kit.
     
  5. Aug 29, 2012 at 1:42 PM
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    Also just an FYI King will build a kit specific shock and they do not charge any more than the standard 8" price. I have shortened body 8" shocks and they were $976 for a pair shipped to my door. DSM FTW :cool:

    Edit: Oh yeah they also valved my shocks for the correct application for no charge
     
  6. Aug 29, 2012 at 2:44 PM
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    Stock replacements with an ext coilover will give you more travel . I think the fj for some reason has less travel numbers for some reason .
     
  7. Aug 29, 2012 at 2:46 PM
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    down south makes a really solid uca. the price is right and the materials are heavy duty
     
  8. Aug 29, 2012 at 2:51 PM
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    I'm limited at 10 right now and was gong for 10.5 but I pulled the truck out early without my front bumps being installed . If I can manage a 10.5 like I've seen some people do with stock replacements the 2" over can achieve 12 but will probably have to be limited at 11 on a 4x4 . So we're talking maybe a inch here . I'd rather throw that $1k on Axel's and fenders in the rear because that's where it's needed most anyways I think .
     
  9. Aug 29, 2012 at 2:56 PM
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    Im at 12" with my AP kit ..4x4 with no limit straps

    :popcorn:
     
  10. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM
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    ^^^^thats what im looking for!!!
     
  11. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM
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    and thanx for chiming in sara (allpro) info from the source is always appreciated
     
  12. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:02 PM
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    Well there you go 12" 4x4 . +2 with the ap kit .
     
  13. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:03 PM
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    Lol..with 35" tires and locked front and rear. Ill post up some pics later with me on the rocks..
     
  14. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM
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    Whatup John! I wouldn't say this if it were someone else's thread who i didn't know, but since i know you, your wheeling style, and what kind of terrain you wheel, i feel like i have enough info to make the following claim......for about the same price, you can get front and rear lockers and the required air to power them. for your speciffic wheeling needs, two lockers will get you overthrough way more than a couple extra inches of front travel.
     
  15. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:05 PM
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    thanx monkeyproof....yea thats exactly where im heading this fall-next spring :) and 4.56's
     
  16. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:09 PM
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    yeah i know brotha but i still want MORE :D....just tryin to figure out exactly how i want my build to go...lockers,gears,35's are a deff 100% but extra travel and stronger axles are deff needed with were i wanna go :).....gonna run blacks at rausch creek soon..been talking to some locals ;)...and after all the extras im gonna try my hand at a red or 2.......got a cool idea for some flat tube/plate style fenders im gonna draw up soon also :p
     
  17. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM
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    nice, i was actually just thinking about integrating my bumpers and sliders to one another and making a partial exo cage.

    but on-topic, you're talking about 6 grand(ish) for a +2 LT and lockers/gears. unless you save up real well, it's gonna be a two stage process, and for your needs, i believe lockers should be the first of the two steps. i've seen vehicles with 2/3 the ground clearance as me and less travel make it over the same stuff (maybe quicker even) simpley because they have lockers.
     
  18. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM
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    Shit, this thread pretty much sold me on the AP LT +2 kit, just gotta wait till I get a 4x4!
     
  19. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM
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    If he's going a TC 2" kit with coilovers and arb lockers & gears you should also throw in some gussets now , coilbucket, spindle , cam . You're looking at 11k or so with install .
     
  20. Aug 29, 2012 at 3:20 PM
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    x2. all the reinforcing you can do!
    john knows how to wrench though and has access to welding, so it'd be cost of parts and shipping only.
     
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