Tesla back under it again....

So yes, this was indeed about an entity being able to (or need to) remotely change the functionality of your vehicle after you are the owner. And possibly without your permission or even knowledge. The "save the environment" angle of EVs overall is already a known bust.

Remember when Tesla graciously (but temporarily) "updated" remotely to allow certain people's cars to go a little further due to a 2018 impending hurricane? (Pepperidge Farm does...) Sounds all squishy nice on the surface until you think about the many paths on this.

Imagine if Toyota said "hey all you in New England, we see the snow storm may affect you a bit. Here's your engine remapped to 30mpg for the next two weeks. Sorry you can't keep it, and sorry for the rest of you that can't benefit from better mpg." You'd have complaints about the remote access security and controlling Mothership, and also about the benefit some got but not passed on to others that paid for the same vehicle. And in general, like with Tesla, why didn't it come better / that way to begin with?


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As NPR reported, Tesla can remotely tap into the max capacity of its 75 kWh batteries in Model S and X vehicles, adding about 30 more miles of range.

Tesla owners were notified that Tesla had enabled the additional battery capacity. They were also offered free Supercharging, which gets batteries to 80 percent in about 30 minutes.

"We hope that this gives you the peace of mind to get to a safe location," the notification read.

Normal battery configurations will return mid-October.

 

Sub'd for the dumpster fire.

 

My comment to this, is that I can put 740 additional miles of travel into the bed of my truck with two minutes notice (plus whatever is already in the tank). Without having to go anywhere or rely on grid power for EV charge or gas pumping at a station. I can go pretty far without having to see another human or civilization at all. If you don't plan for this stuff with a gas vehicle, you sure as heck ain't gonna work it out better with an EV after an instant unplanned grid-down event.

 

I aim to please

Trying, but I've been feeling off my game since bailing on that other <infamous 50+page> thread a few weeks ago.

 

"You will wait and be happy about it!" Incentives are a way of saying "it won't work, but I have people to pay off in the meantime..."

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The Scandinavian countries are a laboratory for what works and what doesn’t when it comes to EV incentives. Sweden has some incentives and sales of electric cars are rising. Norway has many and sells a ton of EVs. Denmark is a mixed bag. Until the beginning of last year, it had significant electric car incentives in place and EV sales were fairly brisk. Then it reversed course and watched sales plunge from many thousands to a few hundred.

To offer more specifics, 2015 saw 4,762 plug-in car registrations in Denmark, 2016 saw 1,438, and 2017 saw just 913.

 

I’m so glad I don’t drive around with 30 gallons of flammable liquid in our buggy, can you imagine what could happen.

 

Only fitting term that came to mind when I was first quickly blasting this out. Sorry, CoC here doesn't really allow proper adults to express what should be in some threads lol.

 

Gas, oil, coal, timber, solar, wind, they all get subsidies

 

Oh, I know. I'm of the opinion that the whole subsidy thing in industry in general is F'd. If there's a market for anything, it will either make it big on it's own or a subset will carve out a niche for it and pay the proper value for it. For public funding to go into subsidies is garbage. In this case here on TW it is specific to the greater $$ amount in re: to the EVs that are in now more and more actually being force onto people.

 

Don't forget meat, dairy and corn

 

I like the idea of being able to charge with solar, we’re not quite there yet, and charging at home on off peak hours.

 

Catalytic converters were forced into production, but at least we can breathe in big cities.

 

I personally think a lot of things are done for national security, way above my pay grade.

 

Seeing some things in my past (30 years) non-solar but electronic manufacturing environments, the concept of solar in general was always very appealing from a nerdy engineering standpoint. I can see it hitting many physics roadblocks and such to be able to do much more than it currently can. Unfortunately this means there might not be as much solar capacity as desired / promised, particularly given the amounts and types of materials going into it. I hope sheer volume of panel surface area is not meant to be the end game on capacity.

Sci-fi movie solar looks great, and I would hope we could get there. Just not expecting to without a real new breakthrough development.

 

Hood, roof of car, roof of house, home battery storage, lots of potential
I remember the first cordless drills, and now.

 

I read somewhere that enough solar energy hits the planet in 60 seconds to meet all energy needs on the planet for a year. If we can learn to harness and store that power we can stop burning fossil fuels.

 

I've always complained that there is a metric (since we're Japanese / Toyota lol) s-ton of unused space on the roof of every building that should be used long before ever putting solar panels over dirt / grass / productive fields. There's a recently approved 1000 acre (!) panel farm slated to go into upsate NY that can be put to much better use. To me that just sounds disheartening.

On another side, you would laugh at the total clear 'sun' days we've had here since let's say June even. I know you get some on even cloudy days, but a good charge output level here would have been fairly negligible. Hell, we had three solid days of complete fog in alone just last week. Desert, obviously much better.

 

Diversity =Strength

 

Exactly, but kinda to my other point that I think we run into tech issues long before being able to take advantage of that. It would (will?) be probably equal to the great wheel discovery if we can get there with any known tech, but current material and physics limitations may not eliminate as much as necessary to flip over. I'm just not able to see enough to cover everything given the input demand. And that demand can only go up given the push to industrialize / modernize many places around the world that "need to".