That gimmick called Crawl Control...

I think it’s an awesome feature for us that are inexperienced and would use it every so often. I live in SoCal and the truck is strictly a daily, so I have a 4x2 sport

 

It's meant for situations that don't require speed or momentum. For mud and snow you would probably want to use MTS and or lock the rear diff.

 

We have 235:1 in our Jeep with a 4-speed Atlas. I can negotiate obstacles with low speed precision that higher-geared Jeeps cannot make with wheel speed. The skinny pedal will grenade WAY more parts than ultra-low gearing, when used with skill.

 

Precisely. I was honestly impressed by it coming off the top of Red Cone.

 

I've used it a handful of times. Got me out of the snow once. Got me up a couple extremely steep sandy hills when nothing else would seem to work. I've been glad I have it and would like to learn to use it more effectively.

 

I've already done about 6 difficult trails here in Colorado/Utah. The times I say to myself it's time for Crawl Control happens in two situations for me. the first one I feel is where it's best. When I have the truck in 4x4 low and diff locked and climbing a steep rocky section and I start to spin the tires where a tire cannot get up a steeper rock because a previous truck dug a hole in front of it or the rock is slippery. Soon as I put the crawl on, I'm like 9 out 10 times it has resolved the issue immediately and went right up and over. I like to use it on very steep loose rock climbs or descents. It's much safer and the truck is easier to control without as much bouncing and jerking around. Did work in the sand in Moab as well.

 

What's your hurry bro?

 

Id say the aftermarket equivalent would be a taco box from Marlin Crawler

 

Low gears are for going slow in a situation that you need more traction and less wheel spin. If you are on the gas then you don't need the low gear in what ever situation you are in. Someone with a heavy foot will cause more damage than low gears.

 

I couldnt care less how jerky it is as long as I dont have to dig the truck out/hike out of somewhere for help/not get where im going

 

Except that for 100% of sport owners the scoop does nothing. For 100% of OR owners the CC has at least the potential for being used and for some is actually useful.

 

It's Toyota's demonstration, not mine. I don't understand why it has to lurch like that at it's slowest setting.

 

The CC system works on a feedback system, which has a number of variables. It’s important to understand CC uses the throttle and brakes at the same time to “index” the truck across the landscape at your desired speed. You are basically saying to the truck “go 1 mile-per-hour” and then the system has to guess at the right amount it should modulate throttle and brakes (simultaneously) to start proceeding, as it does not know, until the truck starts moving, what the variables are.

Going uphill, it’s lots of throttle and not much brakes (system can sufficiently modulate throttle for smooth crawling).

Going downhill, it’s lots of brakes and not much throttle (system can sufficiently modulate brakes for smooth crawling).

On flat ground, at minimum crawl speed (notch 1), the system needs to apply minimum brakes and minimum throttle. As the truck starts rolling, the system gets feedback and realizes “too much throttle”....so it applies the brakes and gets feedback and realizes “too much brakes”, so it applies the throttle and so on and so on.

This is why the truck lurches on level ground at minimum crawl speed. It would be possible to for Toyota to make it smooth with much finer controls of the brakes and throttle, but since you don’t need CC on level ground, why would they? They’ve essentially kept the system affordable and simple.

In short, Crawl Control only works well when the terrain is challenging enough that the brakes or throttle are in zones where they can be smoothly controlled.

 

Got stuck in the mud today and had to use CC to get me out. That’s why I’m here to find out if my truck was broke or if the noise is normal. Glad it’s normal, and I’m glad I have CC because I was way out in the woods just me and my dog.

 

It's half baked, no need to make excuses for it. It lurches even uphill, no need to kill momentum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-BrhgNE8tA&t=360s

 

Mine does not lurch. That video is tame.

It’s not half baked, just maybe your understanding of it, or the times you have used it. Guys who don’t understand it’s worth just aren’t pushing hard enough. Simple as that.

You are not driving like this with your magic foot:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ-Cq_b_UbI

 

I think the point a lot of people are missing, is that multi-terrain select IS crawl control, just with driver-controlled pedals.
I love the traction control aspect of MTS and CC. I just want to control the pedals myself and avoid the stupid lurching of CC, so I'll use MTS instead.

Personally, the ONLY potential benefit I see of CC over MTS is that you get ABS-style braking downhill.

 

I've used it just to try it and I will say I was impressed with what it was able to do .

But otherwise I would say I don't go for it.
I much prefer the rock setting and rear locked

 

Dumb question - Can you use Crawl Control AND the rear locker at the same time?

 

Yes