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The "40+" "Old Timers Thread.

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Matic, Jun 18, 2011.

  1. May 14, 2013 at 8:33 PM
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    Rich91710

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    Sweet.

    I've been planning a backpiece for over 10 years.
    Just haven't come up with the right design yet.

    It's tough to come up with a design featuring Herne and his dogs that doesn't look like it belongs on a Dio cover.
     
  2. May 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM
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    mommehK

    mommehK Never let your fear decide your fate

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    I have my back piece planned...conceptually of course. It's on paper and in the hands of my artist, we shall see what he does with it.
     
  3. May 14, 2013 at 9:18 PM
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    OZ-T

    OZ-T All of those moments....will be lost.....in time

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    I don't fucking believe it

    Liberals may form another majority government in BC
     
  4. May 14, 2013 at 10:10 PM
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    mommehK

    mommehK Never let your fear decide your fate

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    Listening to a little STP....memorieeeeeeeees....
     
  5. May 15, 2013 at 12:26 AM
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    Pchop Beavis Killer

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    Well there is a shocker!!!!!!:rolleyes:
     
  6. May 15, 2013 at 4:15 AM
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    lol, what's wrong with that?????:D
     
  7. May 15, 2013 at 4:23 AM
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    the pic sucks but big skull is a candy skull which is a Dia de los Meurtos thing, a Reaper's sicythe, shrunken heads, it took about 9 1/2 hours to do.

    [​IMG]
     
  8. May 15, 2013 at 4:24 AM
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    What's that mean Pete?
     
  9. May 15, 2013 at 6:28 AM
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    DoorDing

    DoorDing Thank you, Nancy Roman

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    They already took your guns and pipeline.
    Higher fuel taxes? Mandatory monthly dress day? Puck tax?
     
  10. May 15, 2013 at 7:20 AM
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    OZ-T

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    All the polls showed the NDP would form a majority government , I thought at worst a minority but somehow the Liberals won a majority 50 - 32 seats

    The Liberals support the Northern Gateway pipeline and LNG ports for shipment to Asia

    Basically means the Northern Gateway pipeline is probably gonna happen
     
  11. May 15, 2013 at 7:23 AM
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    Saskquatch11

    Saskquatch11 TRUCK YEAH

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    :woot:
     
  12. May 15, 2013 at 7:25 AM
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    Yeah , I was always kind of conflicted about it

    On one hand it's beneficial to the country , on the other hand potentially devastating to the coastline and everything I love here
     
  13. May 15, 2013 at 8:07 AM
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    mommehK

    mommehK Never let your fear decide your fate

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    Pretty sweet. I'm not a fan of the old school style for myself but I seriously do appreciate the work!

    My backpiece is going to be my own version of a Tree of Life...looks like a weeping willow, with life sayings following the branch lines. Important dates will be incorporated also.
     
  14. May 15, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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    DoorDing

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    I'm surprised they'd support the pipeline. Obviously, that wouldn't be the case in the U.S. If it goes through, it'll be up to the people to make sure proper standards are set and met. Relying solely on the government to provide enough oversight often fails.
     
  15. May 15, 2013 at 1:28 PM
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    Why would you be suprised that they support the pipeline ?

    and if the pipeline goes through , how do the people provide oversight to a project that the feds and provincial governments are in charge of overseeing ?

    The First Nations are opposed , this thing may never get built , they may just expand the existing capacity of the Kinder Morgan line into Vancouver for the bitumen and do LNG exports in Kitimat

    Expanding Kinder Morgan brings oil tanker traffic within 5 miles of where I live
     
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  16. May 15, 2013 at 1:32 PM
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    Standards and oversight can't stop human/operator error, greed, and shortcuts. Valdez, Deepwater H, ...duh. Failures are inevitable where engineering and humans are involved.
     
  17. May 15, 2013 at 1:53 PM
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  18. May 15, 2013 at 4:14 PM
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    I'm surprised because, as I said, the Liberal cause in the U.S. killed a very similar pipeline, and they're generally opposed to such projects.

    People provide oversight through organizations that operate outside of the government (NGOs such as Sierra Club, Tread Lightly, First Nations, etc.) and independently review projects. Those same organizations and their members work to inform the general public about the projects and their impact. Independent people produced those youtube videos you linked, and at least a few of the pipeline workers will give a damn if there's an accident. If the pipeline goes, NGOs may play a crucial role in guiding the project towards a safer plan, and making sure the standards are met over the long term.

    It won't be easy, and there's no assurance of success, but what's the alternative? Pete, you strike me as exactly the kind of person that could be a strong, effective voice from your community. You're smart, have a construction background, can easily sniff out BS, and you live in the affected area. It's obvious you care about the project, and this is something that'll affect generations of Canadians. It's worth your time.
    That will always happen, but it doesn't mean people shouldn't try to limit the hazards and damage.
     
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  19. May 15, 2013 at 4:42 PM
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    " Liberals " is the name of the party , not necessarily their ideology

    The postponment of the Keystone XL pipeline by the US government is the reason this pipeline has gotten the fast track

    The Canadian government wants to diversify our markets for oil so we aren't relying on the US market
     
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  20. May 15, 2013 at 4:50 PM
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    Well of course. My point is, shit can and will still go wrong. All design and cost is ultimatley driven by risk assessement. No one can afford to design, build, and operate a foolproof system for eternity. They play the odds with a certain level of risk assumption. If they can't do it profitably, they wouldn't do it. They simply play the probablity of profit off the probability of failure of a certain level of design and materials and operating scenarios, and they figure it is worth to pay for the failure if it happens. Somewhere, there will be a bad bunch of bolts, a bad batch of concrete, an incorrectly applied coating, an innatentive operator, an insufficient inpsection...
     
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