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The 95-97 Taco Thread

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by 3RZ Taco, Sep 23, 2012.

  1. May 11, 2013 at 4:54 PM
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    Interesting, I've never seen leafs bind like that. I stand corrected on the shocks, yours appear to be plenty long enough.

    The first thing I see is that the bolt on the rear of your leafs looks way to tight. That could be your binding problem right there? Secondly, what kind of bushings are you running? The bushings themselves should be flexing much better then that. Third, the clamp thingies that keep the leafy even, do they appear to have any wiggle room when flexing? And lastly, what does the front of your leafs look like at full flex?
     
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  2. May 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM
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    actually i have 7 leafs..so not that far off from you..

    Maybe your shackles are too tight?? I know i tightened mine too much the first go around and was like..WTF?!..then loosened then a bit..flex great now.

    And well it was a year ago :notsure: I honestly don't think just one makes that big a difference..nets you MAYBE .5''..and they are sooooo expensive. Plus you have to get custom shackles made by Alcan too as the Ordbits are much wider or something so normal sized ones don't fit.

    I have just billy 5150s :eek: 10'' travel. Im sure im maxed something out tho..they leak pretty bad now..

    Honestly i haven't seen much binding..im pretty happy with my rear setup. Id like to relocate my shocks like /\ and get some 11'' ones or 12'' and better shocks then my current ones. Something rebuildable at least..
     
  3. May 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM
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    I think you're onto something with my lower shackle bolt. I'll try loosening that up and see if that nets me more flex.

    I'm running prothane bushings, which are pretty stiff. My hope was that they would break in, but they are holding up almost too well...

    As for the clamp thingies, I think there is enough room to move in there. It looks like they let the top leave bend. What do you think?

    Also, the front side of the leafs were just going into negative arch when I took the pic. This picture is from a different day... it's just a little more extreme than the negative arch the other night.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. May 12, 2013 at 4:09 PM
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    i actually don't have one of those retainer clips blot in either. The leaf that has the clip is too low so i can't fit a bolt on them. I bet that is one of the reasons i droop so well too.
     
  5. May 12, 2013 at 4:16 PM
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    Well crap... Maybe I'll head out to the garage right now and loosen those bolts a half turn or so. I didn't realize you had 7 leafs in there.

    Yeah, I was looking at investing some pretty serious cash and going a couple of inches longer on the main leaf, going a little longer on the shackle and getting the orbit eyes at the same time. Maybe I can save that cash and start on my rear bumper!

    Also, your 10" 5150s and my 12" 7100 Short bodies have basically the same compressed length. If you're looking for something to swap in with just a little more travel, I've been impressed with mine. Plus they're rebuildable and I like the bling!:headbang:
     
  6. May 12, 2013 at 4:41 PM
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    How much do they run usually?? Same compression length is bad ass.

    Yea try loosening the shackles. And take out that retainer clip top bolt.
     
  7. May 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM
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    Full setup was going to be over $500, so I'll try your (and Davtopgun's) advice with loosening the shackle bolts and pull that top bolt from the retainer clip.
     
  8. May 12, 2013 at 4:48 PM
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    Eh. Not that bad I guess. Cheaper then others haha

    Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
     
  9. May 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM
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    Blackdawg: It was that price because I was only going to buy the main/support leaf for each side. (plus the orbit eyes and special shackles) Like you said, I'll update you guys on working with what I've got first. When I post up new pics, I'd love your weigh in.

    BTW, this is probably one of the most helpful forums/threads I've seen. Thanks for all of your input, guys
     
  10. May 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM
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    This pic shows another possible big problem. You're never supposed to negative arch leaf springs. You can lose much of your positive arch. If they've been doing that for a long time, then you've likely lost some of your positive arch, meaning that your leaf pack will no longer droop like it was designed to do.


    My leafs have the bolt, but it sits 1" above the leaf pack, allowing for a ton of droop. My shocks bottom out long before the leafs get anywhere near it.
     
  11. May 12, 2013 at 11:56 PM
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  12. May 13, 2013 at 3:42 AM
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    ^^ Looks good man. I like the roof rack!
     
  13. May 13, 2013 at 6:35 AM
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    Milota95: Nice lookin rig. It makes me want a rear bumper with tire carrier.

    Davtopgun: You're right about negative arch ruining springs. I've been kind of careful to prevent that. I got some negative this time because I was measuring full flex for my extended bump stops. I threw about 300 lbs of stuff in the back and basically RTI'd it till one back tire came off the ground. (I'm hoping that didn't hurt anything?) Now I know that I need a 3.75" extension on my strike plate. Maybe I'll take a picture of the truck straight and level and get your opinion.
     
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    Shouldn't have hurt them if only done a few times. I need to take those measurements myself, but been working crazy hours. :(
     
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    ^I know what you mean! That and I'm riding on a scooter because I had Achilles tendon surgery.:anonymous:
     
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    Ouch, buddy of mine had that done. His was is such bad condition, they said he will walk with a limp the rest of his life.
     
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    damn that sucks. My calc teacher broke his too..sucked.
     
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    Yeah, it suck pretty bad. I had surgery on it, then 7 weeks later, I partially tore it when I fell on some stairs. SO... as of last week, I'm back to square one . My surgeon is really good, so we're hoping for a full recovery. I was powerlifting competitively back in 2011 and I'm hoping to get back to that... deadlift and all. So, we'll see.
     
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    Yea if you take it easy and go through the therapy steps you'll be fine :cool:
     
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