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The Anti-Gun Nuts are at it again!!!

Discussion in 'Guns & Hunting' started by badguybuster, Jun 14, 2010.

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  1. Jun 14, 2010 at 4:04 PM
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    While you were watching the oil spill, the New York failed terrorist bombing and other critical crises, Hillary Clinton signed the small arms treaty with the UN.

    OBAMA FINDS LEGAL WAY AROUND THE 2ND AMENDMENT AND USES IT.

    IF THIS PASSES, THERE COULD BE WAR


    On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States


    On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States . The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened.


    Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This has happened in other countries, past and present!

    THIS IS NOT A JOKE OR A FALSE WARNING.

    As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Read the Article U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better. View The Full Article Here


    Click on the link below for further acknowledgement…..

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015
     
  2. Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM
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    Please explain how this article relates to banning firearms in the US.
     
  3. Jun 14, 2010 at 4:08 PM
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    Martie? How on GODS green earth do you have nearly 4,000 posts when you've only been on here a year?? That is fairly impressive.
     
  4. Jun 14, 2010 at 4:10 PM
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    Because we would be restricted to UN sanctions on firearms. It would give the government A LOT of maneuverability to restrict or ban.
     
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    I don't know what crazy organization you copied this from, but it really puts you in the category of right wing nut job if you are taking this as gospel. Come on, the opening line states "banning all firearms" do you honestly and rationally think that is possible?
     
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    Have you looked up what the treaty states? Do you have a basis for this argument?
     
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    Thanks for the link badguybuster!
     
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    As I understand it, the Senate has to ratify any treaty. So unless the Senate ratifies it, it's not binding on the US. Not that it's good that this was agreed to by the US administration.
     
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    Actually I got it from Bob Graham, for those of you who do not know who he is, he is a BIG TIME cowboy action shooter and pistolsmith. He is also an avid NRA member. I assure you he is far more informed than we are. Damn right I am a right wing nut! I believe in GOD, GUNS, and FREEDOM. :D
     
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    Excerpt from: http://www.llrx.com/features/ustreaty.htm
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    He can sign whatever he'd like- It doesn't give it force of law. Don't twist words and don't use false/incorrect information to create alarm!!
     
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    Better to have too much information than too little. I am not creating alarm just passing along information. That being said, since when has this administration allowed itself to be hindered by the constitution or federal law?? They do what they want. Thanks for reading and have a great day!!
     
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    Not creating alarm?? That is some of the poorest backpeddling EVER.

    This is the problem with folks who want to cry how corrupt everything around them is...You won't admit when you are wrong. You seek to find fault with every decision made- without regard for the truth.

    I know- I hacked up your OP- But if you'll read the lines I selected- They are either FALSE and/or ALARMIST. Your line about how you are just trying to pass information is like trying to put lipstick on a pig- It looks nicer but it still smells like crap.

    Spread TRUTHFUL information, not incorrect propaganda.
     
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    wat?
    i'd say the gun nuts are at it again....way too political and propaganda~ish.
     
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