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The Frontier is trying to catch up.

Discussion in '4th Gen. Tacomas (2024+)' started by JB_TN, Aug 5, 2024.

  1. Aug 6, 2024 at 3:04 PM
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    CrispyTacoLover

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    I think I need to knock on wood.

    Seriously, that’s a good looking Ranger. Congratulations Hog!
     
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  2. Aug 6, 2024 at 3:40 PM
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    Thank you kind sir
     
  3. Aug 6, 2024 at 9:54 PM
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    Ok, context matters, No issues with “NEW” vehicles.
    06 Tacoma, not new, but developed a whistle through the windshield. they redid it and it was fixed.
    07 Tundra crewmax, needed a new water pump at 5 years and 43k miles.
    4 year old 911 needed a new water pump at 25k miles.
    Edit, my 22 superduty just required a new 5 dollar taillight bulb. So unreliable….
    It’s not like no issues ever….
     
  4. Aug 6, 2024 at 10:17 PM
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    JB_TN

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    Was just thinking...the Gladiator also did a minor interior refresh for MY24 but nothing else. Don't think it helped them out much.
     
  5. Aug 8, 2024 at 5:16 PM
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    Just added toolbox and roof-rack to haul my fishing boat 100's of miles into the backwoods every week. Goodrich K02s, Bilstein 5100 front and back, no lift.
    Nope.

    My 1986 F150, 300 cyl, straight 6, 4 spd manual 4x4.

    Does replacing a clutch, one inner needle bearing and a radiator after 200K miles count as major issues? Used primarily for hard off roading.

    My 3 different Mazda 3 cars (2 for me, one for my wife). Only issue was a squeaky throwout bearing on my wifes clutch.

    I bought a used 1970 Firebird Formula 400. It was my daily driver for 10 years. I did all the “repairs” and maintenance. Replaced one starter motor in those 10 years.

    My fathers 1996 F250. 5 spd manual 4x4. That truck took more abuse than any vehicle I have ever seen in 50 years of driving. Major issue? One clutch in 250K miles. Overweight camper, towing overweight loads with camper on, and too many hunting trips in BC to count. At the end it drove rough, but mechanically solid.

    A 1965 Pontiac Parisienne, 3 on the tree. Over 400,000 miles. One clutch, one radiator, one starter. That underpowered car saw hundreds of camping, fishing and hunting trips in BC. Common to have a bull moose strapped to the roof, and 3 guys and their gear inside.

    That was my first car. My brother bought it from my father for $300. I bought it from my brother for $250 when it had over 300,000 miles on it. Frequent trips with a 12 foot aluminum boat on the roof, 10hp motor and camping gear in the trunk. I sold it some years later to a friend for $250. He drove it to over 400,000 miles and he sold it for $450. Profit for christs sake.

    The simplicity of some older vehicles made them very reliable. The complexity of modern vehicles can be a nightmare.
     
  6. Aug 8, 2024 at 5:45 PM
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    CrispyTacoLover

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    Do you still have the Firebird?
     
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  7. Aug 8, 2024 at 7:07 PM
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    Phlogiston

    Phlogiston There are no victims, only volunteers.

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    Well boys, I reckon we'll all see each other on the Frontier forums soon enough
     
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  8. Aug 8, 2024 at 7:18 PM
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    CrispyTacoLover

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    Uh, no. Nissan lost my business when the fucked up the Pathfinder.
     
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  9. Aug 8, 2024 at 7:42 PM
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    Phlogiston

    Phlogiston There are no victims, only volunteers.

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    Ok then, see ya there
     
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    I just lifted a 23 Frontier at work, spacer lift, yuck.

    The truck is a nice overall package. I MUCH prefer the suspension design and geometry of the Tacoma. I have lifted well over 100 Tacomas.

    On 2 occasions I rented a 2013 Nissan frontier 4x4 for camping I didn't have a 4x4 truck then. One time, all was going fine, until I hit an unsuspecting set of woops. The truck blew the side curtain airbags only! I think the truck sensed a rollover, even though it wasn't even close. I did some research and a few other Frontier owners have experienced curtain airbags deploying while off roading.

    I have had my 2018 Tacoma, GX470, 99 4runner 4x4, LX470 in much worse situations and the airbags didn't go off.
     
  11. Aug 8, 2024 at 8:36 PM
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    I’ve had 2 Frontiers, both 2019s, not the new model, although that doesn’t really matter because the new model is more like a 2G to 3G Tacoma….same genes underneath, new sheet metal, PowerTrain, and tech.

    I loved the design of my frontiers, significantly more so than the Tacoma. In theory it was a much better vehicle, more well thought out and good lord, the drivability was so much better. Unfortunately the build quality was not there and both of mine were clunkers. Older ones were pretty solid, aside from some issues with the auto trans radiators (pink milkshake) and timing chain tensioner issues on 05-10. I’d go manual and I’m not afraid of the chains. Otherwise they were very rock solid and I think a better truck than the Toyota counterpart in most ways (aside from creature comfort style features, although the Nissan had things like seat heaters in low trims that Toyota excludes…)

    The suspension design is dumb on the Nissan, but I’m not really into lifting and in stock form both trucks are perfectly fine to me, so no real complaints. But the Nissan design definitely sucks for lifting, so much coil bucket contact even at only 2” up front.
     
  12. Aug 8, 2024 at 8:56 PM
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    Just added toolbox and roof-rack to haul my fishing boat 100's of miles into the backwoods every week. Goodrich K02s, Bilstein 5100 front and back, no lift.
    No, long gone. An old blurry photo here.

    IMG_6674.jpg
     
  13. Aug 9, 2024 at 5:28 AM
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    Classic. My best friend in college had one. Fun car. Chick magnet!
     
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  14. Aug 9, 2024 at 8:08 AM
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    Just added toolbox and roof-rack to haul my fishing boat 100's of miles into the backwoods every week. Goodrich K02s, Bilstein 5100 front and back, no lift.
    It was a great car, crazy good times with it. Yeah it was a chick magnet back then.

    This is exactly how it looked under the hood. Stock at 330hp. I used to cruise in Alberta on the open highway at 120mph, not even breaking a sweat. With its wide low stance it was so solid at high speed. Once up to 140mph, but that just not safe to maintain even on deserted open highways.

    IMG_3457.jpg
     
  15. Aug 9, 2024 at 1:02 PM
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    The Frontier is heavily based off of the Titan 1/2 ton, lot's of shared parts. I've had great ownership experience with my 2 Titan trucks over the last 15 years, I'd expect the midsize Frontier to be even more durable than a Titan. Which for me, means more than anything since I owned my previous truck 14 years. I could see the Frontier easily lasting longer with such a robust chassis.

    It's true that the UCAs have coil bucket contact with lifts over 1.5", but I wonder if that's true of the new Tacoma, since the lifted versions now have special aluminum upper control arms.
    There's a few good options for forged upper control arms for the Nissan trucks that allows coil bucket clearance on lifted trucks.

    I think the biggest knock against Nissan trucks, especially the Titan, there's not much room for up sized off-road tires. And now you can get a front sway bar disconnect on the TRD OR, that definitely puts the Tacoma a bit ahead.

    But my needs would be more than fulfilled by a Frontier Pro-4x long bed. I'll definitely shop it against a Tacoma TRD OR long bed when the time comes. But, if I can get a significant deal on the Frontier over the Tacoma, I'd go with the Nissan. I scare myself enough as it is with my Titan Pro-4x, the only issue I've had off-roading has been the turning radius and the full size body rubbing on trees and bushes in tight trails
    Hey, what's wrong with nature's pin striping if your resale value "sucks"? Buy cheap, keep a long time, beat on the truck without worrying about preserving resale or parking lot cred, and have a good time
     
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  16. Aug 9, 2024 at 1:12 PM
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    BUCKLE UP! It makes it harder for Aliens to pull you out of your Truck.
    Get crackalackin’
     
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  17. Aug 10, 2024 at 8:38 AM
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    @Hogleg918

    Are you serious when you say your Ranger is on its third transmission and second engine? You’re just joking, right?
     
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  18. Aug 10, 2024 at 8:45 AM
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    Just messing around. People here seem to think because it’s a Ford it will fall apart immediately. Just as many issues with Tacoma as Ranger in 2024. No manufacturer is immune.
     
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  19. Aug 10, 2024 at 9:44 AM
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    I owned a 1998 Tacoma ext cab returner 2.7, a 2004 trd 4x4 double cab 3.4 best I ever had, a2012 4x4 double cab 4.0, and a 2017 sport double cab 4x4 3.5. Loved the trucks. Love the look of the new Tacoma but hate the turbo 2.4. I believe the 2025 frontier is a better truck bullet proof or a 2023 Tacoma. Just my thoughts.
     
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  20. Aug 10, 2024 at 2:32 PM
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    New has nothing to do with it. The 1960s and 70s cars with hydraulic steering, you could turn the steering wheel with a feather. Nissan retained hydraulic steering instead of going electric like everyone else, but for some unknown reason decided to make it feel like manual steering. When even the professional car reviewers who like heavy steering complain about it, it must be odd.
     
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