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The Getaway...Crom's build and adventures

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by Crom, Feb 11, 2015.

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  1. Nov 3, 2016 at 1:51 PM
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    Crom

    Crom [OP] 2/3 way thru. I'll be back OCT 23, 2021

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    Brute Force Fab - High Clearance Bumper with Swing-out tire carrier (inventory and initial impressions)

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    High Clearance rear bumper with the following customer requested options:
    • Cutout for lights
    • 2.5" reduction on wings (additional clearance for potential larger tire size).
    • Spindle added for swing out gate.
    • Heavy-Duty lockable latch
    • 130 lbs.
    Standard included features (from website)
    • Main structure CNC laser cut and formed from 3/16 steel plate then fully MIG welded.
    • Frame mounting plates CNC laser cut from 1/4 steel plate
    • 5/8 thick steel plate recovery points that fit a 3/4 shackle with a 7/8 pin.
    • Hidden 2'' receiver behind the license plate ( flip up license plate bracket not included)
    • Tow plug relocated next to the hitch behind the license plate.
    • Notches for the use of a Hi-Lift jack
    • Re-uses factory license plate lights and 7-pin tow plug and associated hardware
    Thoughts on Bumper:

    I will review the bumper separately in another post, sometime in the near future.​

    Swing out gate, with provisions for the following:
    • Dual Jerry can holder
    • Hi-Lift Mounts
    • Height adjustable spare tire carrier
    • 47 lbs. (not including latch, 1.47 lb.)
    Thoughts on Gate:

    So far, I like it very much. The Gate is stout, the spindle is impressive. Internally, it has a dust seal which has to be driven into the bottom of the spindle cage. Spindle takes two large Timken tapered roller bearings. I had to purchase a 1-7/16" socket for the nylock spindle nut. It was 3/4" drive. :eek: The spindle nut is torqued in a way that the gate is firmly attached, it opens with slight resistance (recommended by Billy).
    The gate adds another dimension to the truck. Lots of ground clearance was gained by moving the spare. Adds additional options for hauling by hanging gear on gate.
    The gate is easy to remove (I can do it by myself). If removed, a plastic bag, grease, and rubber bands can be used to protect the spindle from the elements. Gate has a spring loaded lock, to secure in the open position. Gate when closed is lockable.

    Potential downsides of gate:
    • Makes hauling anything with the tailgate down, impossible. i.e. long, heavy lumber, a sofa, etc. For those jobs, I'd use another truck, or yank the gate off (About 10 minutes).
    • Need about 5' of clearance behind the truck to open the swing out and lock in place to safely drop tailgate.
    • It's one more thing to manage to get to the back of the truck.
    • Somewhat heavy.
    • Loss of backup camera.
      • Option 1 - is to relocate factory installed tailgate camera to swing out (free).
      • Option 2, buy a clone replacement camera on ebay, and OEM wire harness for about $100 total.

    Dual Jerry can holder
    • 10.47 lbs.
    • Heavy duty steel lockable cable included with basket (not pictured)

    Thoughts on the can holder:

    I like the basket design. I don't own any "NATO" jerry cans, and I don't plan to buy any. I have one 5.3 gallon plastic scepter gas can that is rock solid, and it test fit in there fine with room to spare. My other low profile 5-gallon can that I carry, usually goes on the roof, it also fits with room to spare.
    I like that it's just a plain basket, and I can put whatever I want in there. The options are nearly limitless.
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    The integrated bracket for basket to bolt up. Looks good, I see a nice canvas for future custom work, sans basket. :)

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    Fabricated bolt on Spare tire mount (with forward cant)
    • Height adjustable along the gate spare tire tower using 1/2" bolt holes. (see two pics below)
    • About 20" of vertical adjustment.
    • It appears that the forward cant option may interfere with lowest height adjustment. I chose the highest mounting holes on the gate.
    • 7.57 lbs
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    Aluminum Fold down Table.
    • 6.29 lbs
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    Thoughts on table:

    Fairly light weight and sturdy. I'm seeing this get used a lot for back-country cooking. I've rattle canned it black, and will add a textured coating to the surface. Paint is curing now in the SoCali sun. :D

    Hi-Lift Mounts
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    Hi-Lift Mounted
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    Thoughts on Hi-Lift Mount:

    Simple and effective. The mounts are adjustable to accommodate different Hi-Lift beam hole patterns. I can mount the jack with handle hanging down, or rotate jack 180° and mount with handle up. Both orientations work. Tolerances are on the tighter side. Once I had the mounts properly spaced and torqued proper, I then had to figure out where to place the jack along the Hi-Lift beam, to get everything to clear. i.e. gate opens, jack doesn't hit tire holder, basket mounts, gate latch works, etc. I removed my clamp-spreader attachment (extreme version of hi-lift) from the beam, and will pack that into my recovery bin. I did this for a few reasons. First, to reduce weight on the gate (every bit counts). Second, 99% of time I don't need it. Third, It has a "bling" factor and my truck doesn't need that. haha​
     
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  2. Nov 3, 2016 at 3:27 PM
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    :drool:
     
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  3. Nov 3, 2016 at 3:33 PM
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    That's a lot of bumper.
     
  4. Nov 3, 2016 at 3:55 PM
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    Nick- isn't the spindle included in the Bumper/Tire carrier combo?
     
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    It is, but I think he was referring to the second, plain spindle sleeve that he asked Billy for. That way he can protect the spindle from dirt/debris if he ever chooses to run it sans gate. At least that's the way I understood it.




    If not, I'll just shut my damn mouth...
     
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  6. Nov 3, 2016 at 4:22 PM
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    That thing is sick. Just sayin'...
     
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  7. Nov 3, 2016 at 8:14 PM
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    we are all Nick's acolytes
     
  8. Nov 3, 2016 at 8:39 PM
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    Crom

    Crom [OP] 2/3 way thru. I'll be back OCT 23, 2021

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    That's a very clever solution, looks clean. If anything drastic happened to my stock brakes I'd consider it. I like the truss on the axle housing. :)

    It is. You need not ask for it. I itemized it because it's not built in to every bumper, adds estimated 10 lbs., and part of weight calculation.

    :) Thanks for trying to help.

    Thanks! Really enjoyed looking over you CBI for those few days in Big Bear.

    :wave: Sup' J!

    haha I'm an acolyte as much as everyone else on TW. Just tryin to have fun, while getting thru another build... lol. :D
     
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    I'd like to thank the Crom Club for their input:
    Did this for three straight days, 3X per day.

    3/8" still won't fit. Damn flare nut must be 9.8 mm. LOL.

    Tried this. Not enough room in the upper frame rail area.

    Tried this as well. I didn't want to crank too hard and round off the flare nuts.

    I didn't wan't to break anything because of my wheeling trip tomorrow. After the trip, I'll likely go all out and do all kinds of crazy shit to deal with this. Hardlines be damned!!!

    Did this. Unbolted the brake line bracket and added about 1.25 inches of washers. Also bent the bracket tabs to gain more extendable soft line length and reduce/improve the angle at full extension. Previous angle was 90 degrees. With this emergency "mod" I think I gained a total of 2" with the OEM brake lines.

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    Also did this using Cam buckle straps. Both ends had heavy duty hook "eyes." I bolted one end to the frame and the other end to the leaf ubolt. The bungee is to keep the cam buckle from bouncing around and hitting the frame and getting caught between the bump stop and frame. I think it will work pretty good as a limiting strap if I do say so myself :)

    At full extension:
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    At rest, with bungee retention/anti-rattle device.
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  11. Nov 4, 2016 at 8:18 AM
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    I'm starting to think this will be my route. I'm having a hate/hate relationship with my brake lines right now.When you get a chance @Evenflow , maybe I catch up with you on how to do this and sourcing of the parts?
     
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  12. Nov 4, 2016 at 8:34 AM
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    I applaud the DIY effort but that strap is going to break buddy. That is a single ply strap and if you look at real limit straps they are made of a much stronger material and generally 4 plys thick...and they still stretch. Straps should be 4 ply and double shear mounted on both ends.
     
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  13. Nov 4, 2016 at 9:22 AM
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    Crom [OP] 2/3 way thru. I'll be back OCT 23, 2021

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    ^ I agree.

    @Subway4X4 Search Amazon for "Axle strap" less than $10 each (not real limit straps, but would work for your immediate trip)

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    AND I think It's time for you to make your own build thread! :p
     
  14. Nov 4, 2016 at 10:00 AM
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    Crom [OP] 2/3 way thru. I'll be back OCT 23, 2021

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    I got three small tasks done on the truck yesterday.

    • I double nutted my radiator bolts, and blue lock-tite'ed them.
    • Got carpet installed on tailgate.
    • Stripped and cleaned beat-up factory warning sticker from Hi-Lift handle. (looks better)
    • Also discovered that the security cable for the dual jerry can holder works to secure my spare on the tire carrier! Nice surprise!
    The double stick carpet tape seems to work pretty well. Better than my initial expectations. The only question in my mind is longevity. It was an easy 15 minute job. My youngest daughter still likes the aluminum tailgate skin the best. I tried to explain why we were putting carpet there, but she didn't seem to care. :laugh: My oldest daughter who assisted with putting down the sticky tape, has determined that the swing out gate works very well as a jungle gym, climbing all over it out to the end and then sitting perched in the middle. It was a fun evening. :)

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    Relentless Fabrication Aluminum Tailgate skin is under the carpet.
     
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    Yup, you're right.

    My signature line is getting kinda long :)
     
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    You can say that again!!!!
     
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    Let me check out the local Tractor Supply. I betcha they have something like this.

    Bonus that it's right next to the Urgent Care Center. I kinda mashed/sliced my finger trying to deal with this brake shit. My wife insists that I get it looked at by a pro. She also said that I should've had a pro to do these damn brakes :)
     
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  18. Nov 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM
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    Crom [OP] 2/3 way thru. I'll be back OCT 23, 2021

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    Took the rig for a Costco run.

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    o_O
     
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  20. Nov 7, 2016 at 11:04 AM
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    Crom [OP] 2/3 way thru. I'll be back OCT 23, 2021

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    Nothing wrong with driving over a mountain to get to the local store. :rolleyes: :D

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    I gave the truck a good shake down on a local mountain. Played around on some rocks. (Not pictured) I actually watched my sidewall fold in half, like a 180° fold, on a rock. :eek: I didn't know that was possible @ 19 PSI pinched between rim and rock (black rub mark on sidewall).

    Wife was like, why did Costco take so long, and why is the truck all covered in dust? o_O :laugh:
     
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