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The Getaway...Crom's build and adventures

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by Crom, Feb 11, 2015.

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  1. Apr 6, 2018 at 5:26 PM
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    Just chiming in regarding a post a few pages back...

    I have about 15k on my LCA's after the whiteline rebuild and proforged ball joint install. About 2k ago I dropped the LCA's to do the cam tab reinforcement upgrade and inspected and regreased the bushings. I didn't pull them out of the sleeve - the Prothane Supergrease makes them supperrrr sticky and a pain to pull out. I did regrease the surfaces and the inner surfaces though. The hardware was coated with a Molykote 321 dryfilm lubricant along with Prothane Supergrease (contact points only not the threaded section) and the molykote wore rubbed away on the surface that contacts the metal sleeve insert on the LCA's. Overall I'm quite content with the whiteline bushing upgrade - the proforged ball joint on the other hand needed a new boot as it was already starting to pop off around the base - Proforged sent me a new ball joint however I just haven't the down time to pull them off and bring them to a shop to press out. These proforged ball joints are a huge PAIN to press in/out.

    I have a second set of LCA's I'll be rebuilding this summer and might see if Moog offers the bootless balljoint for the LCA's... that'll be a sweet score if they offer a size that fits.
     
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  2. Apr 9, 2018 at 1:04 PM
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    Thanks for your descriptive post!

    Sorry to hear about the boot--what a pain.

    Yes Moog makes a LBJ for our trucks. I have them, see this post for pics. I'm running a double boot on mine. :)

    I have 3,800 miles since I put the rebuilt LCA's with Whitelines on. I'm not looking forward to regreasing them. I may even go back to OEM bush.
     
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  3. Apr 9, 2018 at 2:08 PM
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    You can buy the moog boots separately? You sir have just sold me on them.
     
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  4. Apr 9, 2018 at 3:51 PM
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    I had (2) brand new older style LBJ, and (2) new LBJ with updated design. I stole the boots off the older model LBJ and fitted them onto the new ones for double protection. If you call Moog they might be able to send you a pair of the older boots. Hope that makes sense.

    I do trust the joints though. Well made in U.S.A. And I've beat on them more than I care to admit.
     
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  5. Apr 10, 2018 at 4:52 AM
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    That's good to hear - I wonder if they offer the same for the upper control arm ball joint. Camburg's original moog boots tore within 5k and they sent me these slip on boots that just suck...
     
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    20180410_111422.jpg Have you ever had to remove the roof track nuts? I'm trying to figure out how to do this on my ARE CX roof tracks.... it's a metal nut inside of a rounded nylon cup and I don't see how I can loosen the nuts without damaging the nylon cap...... I'm not even sure how they are tightened in the first place.
     
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  7. Apr 10, 2018 at 10:37 AM
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    Just hold the nylon cup while turning the screw from the top side.

    The nut is just sitting in the nylon cup.
     
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  8. Apr 10, 2018 at 11:04 AM
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    I guess that makes sense..... I tried turning the cup, but didn't budge. I feel kinda dumb now. Thanks!
     
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  9. Apr 10, 2018 at 11:56 AM
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    Not dumb - just overthinking! ;)
     
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    This thread has been my go-to reference on the whole shackle-in-stock-hanger question, so sorry to resurrect something you completed a long time ago. I started with the ATO, but can confirm that they will not work with Dakar EL095 leafs. Note the interference between the shackle center support and the second leaf.


    Come to find out from @gunny1005 that the replacement OEM shackles having part number 04483-04080 are discontinued and no longer offered by Toyota. Something about them having been caught up in the whole leaf-spring recall mess.
    There is an alternative: part number 04005-65104 is a bare shackle with no bushings. And they're cheap. Have a set on the way along with the Energy 8.2116G bushings which, as I understand it, is the only place to get the correct bushings for the naked shackles.
     
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  11. Apr 26, 2018 at 12:07 PM
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    I had the same issues with my ATO shackles - would up having to use my stock ones (luckily they were replaced as part of the leaf spring recall). I'll have to look into these bare ones....
     
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  12. Apr 26, 2018 at 12:17 PM
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    I put the new springs in on Tuesday, re-using my 94k mile stock shackles/bushings out of necessity. If this works, the only thing wasted will be 2/3 of the inbound Energy Suspension bushing kit...
     
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  13. Apr 26, 2018 at 7:43 PM
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    Thanks for the updated info. The naked shackles are perfect! I used the poly bushing from Wheelers Offroad they sell for Dakar. It's a perfect fit.
     
  14. May 12, 2018 at 8:26 AM
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    Hi Crom, there is a discussion on auto trans flushes in another thread, and I wanted to again thank you for the outstanding help to provided old me a couple years ago. My transmission continues to shift flawlessly, now 24,000 miles and two years later! Most of my mileage last year was in Baja researching for a new road guide... tough conditions! See photos in the trip reports section (Off roading) on TW.
    Thank you, again!
     
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  15. May 21, 2018 at 8:03 PM
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    CROM!!!!!!!!!! Dude finally got around to the leaf spring isolators for the Dakar’s. I did it all my self but man no noise and it flexes a lot smoother. Been on my list forever and I can’t believe I waited this long to do it. I appreciate your write up and info on it. Thanks man!
     
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  16. May 21, 2018 at 8:08 PM
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    cool you got it done. my dakar's squeaked the hole time they been on and I kind of liked it that way.. never did try to isolate them....got some new leafs in the garage to replace them..and figure they'll be just as noisy
     
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  17. May 21, 2018 at 8:30 PM
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    It was every shift with the manual and every bump. Arb are ass hats for not putting them in all the leafs
     
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    Crom [OP] 2/3 way thru. I'll be back OCT 23, 2021

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    Welcome! Glad to hear it. Mine are still silentt, love them! :D
     
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    885 w/ 5100's + 1/2" d.s. top plate, EL096R w/ B110's, Whiteline LCA bushings, Energy Suspension poly leaf & shackle bushings, new OEM rear shackles, custom rear brakeline mount & e-brake extensions, LR UCA's, SnugTop cap
    Hey man, if you happen to remember I'm just curious if your Whiteline bushings visibly compressed after torquing down the LCA hardware. I think spec is 100 ft lbs and I maybe went a bit over that because the included washers are so smooth, unlike the stock bushings/washers, but I noticed the inside or skinny end of the smaller front bushings look like they compressed a fair bit and I guess I'm debating backing them off a hair before I mess them up.

    This is passenger side, torqued with tires installed and on the ground which was not fun:

    [​IMG]
     
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    I think it's okay. I do use the factory torque spec, and torque wrench. Get an alignment, the shop will take care of alignment and retorque.
     
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