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Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by EatSleepTacos, Jun 5, 2017.

  1. Jan 11, 2019 at 6:32 PM
    Skierrichy

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  2. Jan 11, 2019 at 6:33 PM
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    You could have an electrician friend switch a breaker for a 20amp then change the outside plug for a 20 as well? Just brainstorming, since i'd rather you have a good plug than trying to weld and jump it, then start a fire in the pannel...
     
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  4. Jan 11, 2019 at 6:35 PM
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  5. Jan 11, 2019 at 6:35 PM
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    If he's using the dryer plug that's a 220 a std plug is only 110 so still short on power. Not sure if it's the same up canadian way but the wiring going to each of these is different. Today the 220 stuff is 4 wire and the 110 is only 3 also very differen awg wiring.
     
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    EatSleepTacos

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    Extended with 700lbs. I’m so excited.
    I’d worry about the wiring in between being thick enough to handle the current. I feel like that’s how a house fire would start lol
    You made your own welding extension cord, right? Roughly what did it cost you?
    The 20A I use is the washer, so it’s 110. Dryer is 220 but I don’t mess with that.
     
  7. Jan 11, 2019 at 6:46 PM
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    Nice!

    Got ya I thought you had a welder that used either 220 or 110
     
  8. Jan 11, 2019 at 7:01 PM
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    That rock looks nice. Better than the beer really :anonymous:

    Havent you ever heard that you never get in between 2 girls fighting?

    I hate you for this. I was looking for the fair dust post amd you deleted it. :angrygirl:


    #I multiquote For @EatSleepTacos & his twerking stolen avatar
     
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    In theory, with a 3-12 wire you'd be safe for 20amps. But i think @Redmann or @Bocsy44 would be better than me to answer. But I think my 20 amp plug is wired with 10ga...
     
  10. Jan 11, 2019 at 7:05 PM
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    Just put duck tape on it. Fixed
     
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    12/2 is fine for 20 amp. That is how I wired my whole basement. 14/2 for 15 Amps. When I wired my 220 outlet in my garage for my compressor I ran 10/3 to a 30 amp breaker. For 220 runs, the longer the run, the heavier gauge wire you need to run.

    In reality, the quality of modern solid copper wire and the conductive properties of it, you could likely pull 20 Amps through 14/2...but I dont know if it's worth the risk.
     
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    20 amp doesnt necessarily mean 110v. How its hooked up in the panel determines the volts. The amps are determined by a combination of wire size and the matching breaker.

    I didn't make an extension cord, but I DID make an adapter to plug in a tig welder to a gas generator. It consisted of a twist lock 30amp plug, 10/3 wire (4 conductors, black, red, white, and bare ground) and a 50amp 3 wire range receptacle. In the range recept, I combined the ground and the white.
    14 gauge wire = 15amps
    12 gauge wire = 20 amps
    10 gauge wire = 30 amps




    Amps are determined by the breaker. You need to make sure the wire is sized properly to handle the amps, otherwise :bananadead:



    Here's a pic of the adapter I made. Making your own extension cord should be easy.

    20180420_122004.jpg
     
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    The code says 80% of the amps should be on the circuit. So in reality, 80% of 15amps should pass thru a 14 gauge wire.

    You could have probably used 10/2 for your compressor. It likely didn't need a neutral. Neutrals are needed when devices that are being used have a need for 110 volts. I doubt the compressor had any kind of LED lights or anything like that?
     
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    That's not to say the wire cant HANDLE more amps, just that's what the code says.
     
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    No leds or anything other than the motor running. Wired to a 4 prong dryer plug.
    IMG_20151109_083025793.jpg
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    Did I go too big?

    20190111_205802.jpg

    Or is there such a thing?
     
  17. Jan 11, 2019 at 9:53 PM
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    To further expound on what I said....

    Extension cords are generally made better than regular romex (pictured in the adapter I made). BUT SJ cord is rather expensive compared to romex. SJ cord has each conductor insulated and is stranded, with a better, more resistant to scrapes, coating. That being said, if you're going to use the extension cord only your welder, then I'd be ok with it. Just take care of it, dont snag it on shit. Roll it out when you need it and roll it back when your done.
     
  18. Jan 11, 2019 at 11:09 PM
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    I think I paid $80 for mine :bananadead:

    Necessary evil though.

    Edit - I think this is it:

    https://m.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-Pr...0-Volt-10-Gauge-Yellow-Generator-Cord/3191751

    I plug it into a male outlet that's wired to my breaker box in the house and then to the generator.

    And yes, I test the geni bi-annually and it's plugged into a trickle charger.

    I'm OCD like that.
     
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    It's the perfect size!
     
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    @Kemosabe Louis, you have a home made Prinsu?
     
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